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September 18, 2006 at 4:50 pm #4170SamuelParticipant
Wow…. I’m surprised that one group had so many unique faces! Anyway, I need to get to this but with work pilin down on me and such… I do’t believe I’ll have time…
EDIT: Who are the Li Brother’s anyway?
September 18, 2006 at 4:50 pm #21958SamuelParticipantAccepting Taishi Ci’s request, I start writing a guide for the Wu mod. The following is the first chapter:
Chapter1: Dong Zhuo and the Rise of the Sun Clan
Sun Jian stands in front of the Han Emperor, who commands him to conquer rebel lord Dong Zhuo?s general Hua Xiong. Cao Cao is beside the emperor. Sun Jian speaks to him but Cao Cao says that he is too busy. He cannot fight Dong Zhuo and does not even lend his two generals. Sun Jian cannot do anything other than going on his own. His eldest son, Sun Ce, joins at the gate of the palace. Cheng Pu, one of Sun Jian?s most trusted officers, joins outside the palace. Sun Jian and Cheng Pu equip swords while Sun Ce equips spears. Name Cheng Pu to be the tactician because he has the highest intelligence. Sun Jian has a red hare horse right at the beginning so equip it. This first castle looks the same as X? Zhou but it is renamed Liang Xian in this mod.
Since Sun Jian has only three generals instead of five in the original game and the Wei mod, raising levels become much more crucial. When Sun Jian?s army accumulates enough levels, the group travels to a cave (the one closer to the hut) located northeast of Liang Xian. Obtain gold pieces, the map, a copper spear, leather armour, and a leather shield. Equip Sun Ce with the copper spear and everyone should wear leather armours and shields (they begin with leather helmet). I am lucky to pick up a copper sword in a battle against some tigers (yes, this mod features tigers and bandits. No wonder why tigers are endangered species today). I arm Sun Jian and Cheng Pu with copper swords too. Even if you cannot pick one up during battles, you can buy them at the castle (sells both copper swords and spears, compensating for not having five generals). The map has changed. Mountains cut off the southern part and Sun Jian does not need to fight two groups of Dong Zhuo?s army. Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and Cheng Pu head to the other cave northeast of Liang Xian.
Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and Cheng Pu encounter Hua Xiong (400 soldiers), X? Rong (350 soldiers), Li Ru (300 soldiers), Zhang Ji (270 soldiers), and Fan Chou (280 soldiers) at the end of the cave. All of them follow Dong Zhuo. Hua Xiong?s strength of 220 and Li Ru?s intelligence of 220 stand out as being the most dangerous officers. Focus on them first. Then, take down X? Rong, Zhang Ji, and Fan Chou one by one. Sun Jian defeats Hua Xiong for the time being.
Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and Cheng Pu return to Liang Xian; however, the Han Emperor has left. Cao Cao said something to Sun Jian but I cannot understand. No one leaves Sun Jian?s party upon the return because Cao Cao does not lend any generals to Sun Jian in the first place. Talk to Zhu Zhi, who stands at the castle?s gate. He reveals that Hua Xiong has sneaked into the castle. Hua Xiong wants to kill Sun Jian. After a rest, Sun Jian and his troops battle Hua Xiong (700 soldiers). Hua Xiong stands on the central part of Liang Xian. Zhu Zhi joins after Sun Jian kills Hua Xiong. He advises Sun Jian to find Yuan Shu at Ru Nan. Zhu Zhi?s statistics are mediocre (167 strength and 174 intelligence, equips spear); however, he is better than having nobody. Sun Jian desperately needs more officers. Four is better than three.
Dong Zhuo himself charges Sun Jian, as soon as Sun Jian leaves Liang Xian. Dong Zhuo (9999 soldiers) leads L? Bu (9800), Li Ru (9600), and Jia Xu (9400) to avenge Hua Xiong?s death. Sun Jian has no choice but to escape. Sadly, Sun Ce and Cheng Pu disappear. He and Zhu Zhi must travel to Ru Nan together.
Assign Sun Jian to be the tactician on account of higher intelligence. Go to the hut in the northeast and obtain the Zheng?s Letter (I cannot duplicate it even after implementing the procedure). Then, Sun Jian and Zhu Zhi pass the cave where Sun Jian defeats Hua Xiong. They take the ferry and meet Yuan Shu at Ru Nan (Ji Zhou in the original game and the Wei mod). Remember to upgrade shields at Ru Nan?s weaponry. Sun Jian shows Zheng?s Letter to Yuan Shu. He dispatches a very poor general named Fang Yue (strength: 177; intelligence: 60) for assistance.
Bai Ma consists of one citadel instead of three. L? Bu guards the citadel with 3,000 soldiers. He kills Fang Yue with one blow (obviously!!!). Sun Jian and Zhu Zhi escape to Ru Nan (automatic screen). In the palace, Sun Jian meets Fang Yue?s friend ? Wang Kang. Wang Kang is exasperated that L? Bu has killed Fang Yue. He joins Sun Jian in order to avenge Fang Yue?s death. Wang Kang?s abilities are not much better. His strength reaches only 150 while he has an intelligence index of 161. Surely he will die in the hands of L? Bu.
Sun Jian and Zhu Zhi return to Ru Nan after Wang Kang?s death. Sun Jian talks to Yuan Shu. Sun Jian then hears that Sun Ce is in Dong Zhuo?s hands. He sends him a message. The screen turns to Sun Ce, who receives a letter from a messenger. Sun Ce finds his beloved Da Qiao (but her avatar looks so scary like a female ghost), who has a red hare horse. Sun Ce equips it and names himself tactician. He begins a journey of reuniting his father. Da Qiao ends up being Sun Ce?s wife in ROTK.
Sun Ce leaves the vacant city and stays for a free night at the nearby hut. He receives a letter from the old man in the hut. Sun Ce now has three missions: protect Da Qiao from being abducted, pass five citadels, reunites Sun Jian. The first one is south of the hut. Chen Heng (320 soldiers) guards it. Sun Ce kills him easily. Da Qiao has 100 soldiers. She fights in battles but she is unarmed. I always use the ?defend? command on her. She cannot die because Sun Ce loves her too much.
March south to the second citadel and kills Zhang Ying (350) very quickly. Sun Ce and Da Qiao follow the pathway and arrive at the third citadel. A general named Yu Mi (380) serves Sun Ce wine. But Sun Ce does not fall into the trap (or he loses soldiers). Yu Mi challenges Sun Ce and Da Qiao and Sun Ce slaughters him. He does not allow anyone to touch Da Qiao at all!
Sun Ce rests in the temple where he kills Yu Mi. Then, he heads north to the fourth citadel. A woman greets Sun Ce and offers her free overnight stay. Sun Ce then shows her the letter that he received at the hut. The woman unveils the fire plot. Sun Ce and Da Qiao retreat to Luo Yang. Sun Ce upgrades his shield to scale shield. He purchases an armour, a helmet, and a shield for Da Qiao as well. But Da Qiao cannot arm any weapons.
Liu Yao guards the final citadel and the boat. But he cannot stop Sun Ce and he dies under Sun Ce?s spear. Sun Ce and Da Qiao travel by boat to Ji Zhou?s ferry dock. While they are on their way to a small village, Tai Shi Ci suddenly ambushes. Tai Shi Ci wants to take revenge for Liu Yao. Tai Shi Ci discovers Sun Ce strength and he escapes after two rounds. Sun Ce and Da Qiao talk to the villagers, who ask them to defeat the bandit in the northern gate. Sun Ce fights Tai Shi Ci again. Be very careful because Sun Ce inflicts serious damage with his attacks. We cannot kill Tai Shi Ci in this battle. Tai Shi Ci finally submits to Sun Ce after two rounds. He joins the Sun family now. Sun Jian has his first powerful general. Tai Shi Ci uses a spear with a strength value of 236 (intelligence is 123).
They head east to an abandoned city. Cheng Pu is there but he rejects them, thinking that Sun Ce has become Dong Zhuo?s spy. Sun Ce proves his innocence by killing Xue Li, who hopes to avenge for Liu Yao?s death. Cheng Pu then embraces Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci with open arms. A new general, Han Dang, joins the group too. He is not very good (strength value of 188; intelligence value of 117) statistically but one person is better than none. He equips bows so Tai Shi Ci needs to pass his bow to him.
All of them visit the hut outside Ru Nan. A man tells Sun Ce that he will send a person named Huang Gai to Ru Nan. Huang Gai tells Sun Jian that Sun Ce stays in a hut outside Ru Nan. Huang Gai (strength: 204; intelligence: 164, equips spears) joins Sun Jian. Remember to equip a copper spear and purchase a scale shield for Huang Gai. Talk to Yuan Shu and he allows Sun Jian to go to Jiang Dong. Sun Jian would build his base there.
Suddenly, Yuan Shu?s generals Chen Ji (780) and Zhang Xun (800) ambush. They think that Sun Jian poses a threat to Yuan Shu. They decide to kill Sun Jian. Both enemies have low abilities so an armed Huang Gai takes care of them. Sun Jian arrives at the hut and finds Cheng Pu and Sun Ce at the second floor. The Sun family finally establishes his core generals (not including Sun Ce): Cheng Pu, Han Dang, Huang Gai, Tai Shi Ci, and Zhu Zhi. They now go to Jiang Dong.
Note: the map is slightly different but I easily adapt into it. I have to mention that the tactician does not automatically fall into the last position during battles. Therefore, tacticians can fight. But if he dies during battle, the whole army cannot use tactics. You decide whether you want to put your tactician in the line of fire. By the way, I make up the titles for each chapter based on its flow and the original ROTK plot.
September 18, 2006 at 7:42 pm #21959SamuelParticipantSun Jian and Da Qiao do not have red hare horses. They have something called "Speed Walk Tablet." It has the same effect as the red hare horse.
September 18, 2006 at 7:45 pm #21960SamuelParticipantI have recruited Zhou Yu and finished chapter two. Here is this chapter’s guide:
Chapter 2: A Bright Star Rises in Jiang Dong
Sun Jian is now in Wu Cheng Castle (formerly Jing Zhou in the original). Time flies. Dong Zhuo has defeated Yuan Shu (still has to die although not in an explicit battle) while Cao Cao has routed Yuan Shao. The map has changed quite dramatically although the core remains the same. Seas and hills replace high mountains. I really feel like Sun Jian is at home in Jiang Dong, since this land is known for its vast land mass and low population (according to Chinese history). Wu Jing, the owner of Wu Cheng, asks Sun Jian to settle the rebels located at three castles southeast of Wu Cheng. An iron sword is available. Pick it up and equip it in Sun Jian and Cheng Pu.
The group enters the first castle (all three castles appear strange in comparison with the normal ones). Ou Xing (1350 soldiers) confronts Sun Jian?s troops. Sun Jian and his comrades defeat him quickly. The second castle is southeast of the first. X? Gong challenges Sun Jian as soon as Sun Jian enters. But Sun Jian?s troops conquer him very easily. The third and final castle includes two generals: Wang Lang (1500 soldiers) and Yan Bai Hu (1400 soldiers). In ROTK, Yan Bai Hu battled Sun Ce when Sun Ce expanded his territory in Jiang Dong. Having Wang Lang and Yan Bai Hu in this final showdown matches ROTK.
Sun Jian returns to Wu Cheng and report the victory to Wu Jing. Wu Jing is very happy and bestows a castle as a tribute. Sun Jian goes north (pass a bridge) and arrives at the castle named Mo Ling (also known as Jian Ye). The castle is ruined but people dream to build it as big as Luo Yang. In fact, Jian Ye would become the perennial capital for Wu and several subsequent dynasties in China. Sun Jian finds an iron armour and everyone equips it (duplication needed).
When Sun Jian leaves Jian Ye, a man reports that Wu Jing is very sick. Sun Jian returns to Wu Cheng and talks to the bedridden Wu Jing. He wishes Sun Jian to take over Jiang Dong. Meanwhile, Cai Mao threatens to murder Sun Jian. Fortunately, L? Meng unveils the plot and Sun Jian escapes to an underground pathway at the northwest corner of the palace.
Sun Jian visits a hut (a bridge connects it) west of Wu Cheng after exiting the underground pathway. Lu Su lives there. He advises Sun Jian to obtain a tactician because the likes of Cheng Pu, Zhu Zhi, and Han Dang are not good enough. Sun Jian asks, ?Who should I seek?? Lu Su says, ?It is getting late. We will talk tomorrow.? Sun Jian sleeps through the night at Lu Su?s home. While Sun Jian and his officers were sleeping, they hear a visitor talking to Lu Su. Sun Jian asks Lu Su about the visitor the next morning. Lu Su replies that his name is Zhou Yu, who lives in a hut northeast of Wu Cheng. Lu Su suggests Sun Jian to visit him, since he is the best tactician in the land of Jiang Dong.
Sun Jian heads to Zhou Yu?s hut. A lady greets him. Sun Jian asks her for Zhou Yu. The lady replies that she is his wife Xiao Qiao (Da Qiao?s younger sister). Zhou Yu is out. Once he returns, Xiao Qiao will go to Jian Ye and let Sun Jian know. Sun Jian returns to Jian Ye.
He finds L? Meng in the palace. L? Meng tells him that Liu Biao has invaded Jiang Dong. Liu Biao leads an army of 10,000 soldiers and they settle in the Bo Wang Pass.
Sun Jian and his officers head southwest to the Bo Wang Pass. Huang Zu (1800) and Gan Ning (1650) attack them. Gan Ning is much stronger than Huang Zu in terms of strength. Concentrate on him more than Huang Zu. Fortunately, none of them casts tactics. Sun Jian wins the battle. He marvels Gan Ning although Gan Ning does not join right away.
Sun Jian returns to Jian Ye and finds Xiao Qiao. She says that Zhou Yu has come back. Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and his officers visit Zhou Yu immediately. Zhou Yu and Xiao Qiao are there (Zhou Yu looks the same as Liu Bei). After a conversation, Zhou Yu joins. The bright star of Jiang Dong is ready to shine.
Note: this chapter is very straight forward. The difference in the world map is drastic but easy to adapt. Since bandits and soldiers are very weak, I suggest taking the advantage and raise several levels. You need higher levels for the next chapter.
September 18, 2006 at 8:11 pm #21961Taishi CiParticipantThanks for this new Wu guide, Samuel. I’ll add this one to the main site in place of my old one.
Good luck with the Fuji battle.
September 19, 2006 at 9:12 pm #21962SamuelParticipantThanks Taishi Ci. I won the Fuji battle on my first attempt. It was difficult but the Yu Lin array really reduces the mystics’ success in tactics. None of my five generals die.
I hope that my guides on the Wei and Wu mod help you get through the games and know the generals’ identities.
September 19, 2006 at 10:12 pm #21963Taishi CiParticipantThe identities of the generals is the big thing, just getting through the game’s not too hard unless you get some puzzle that you have to be able to read the hint or something to get past. Zhang Lu seems to have hit such a puzzle with that button combination in the other thread, though.
What effect does the Yu Lin array have? I admit I rarely ever use different arrays.
September 19, 2006 at 11:47 pm #21964SamuelParticipantThe Yu Lin array does a few things:
1. Reduce enemy’s success in tactics.
2. Increase attack powers on our three generals lining up in the middle (ie. second, third, and fourth).
3. Reduce attack powers on our two generals lining up on both flanks (ie. first and fifth).
The first effect is the main reason for me to use Yu Lin against these mystics. Their tactics rarely succeed, severely limiting their damages.
September 19, 2006 at 11:50 pm #21965SamuelParticipantThe Chi Bi portion of the Wu mod is available. Taishi Ci, would you please post for me? I tried to do it myself but it does not seem to work.
Chapter three: Chi Bi
Liu Biao invades Jiang Dong again. He brings an army of 100,000 soldiers with him, settling at Bo Wang Pass. Sun Jian leaves the group and assigns Zhou Y? to lead the Wu army. Jian Ye?s construction has made progress. Zhu Zhi leaves the group and leads the building process. When Zhou Yu and the rest arrive at Bo Wang, they battle Liu Biao (2000, has the same avatar as Liu Zhang), Kuai Liang (1450), and Wang Wei (1300). Zhou Yu launches a fire attack so the fire burns Liu Biao?s troops every round. Therefore, Zhou Yu easily wins. Everyone returns to Jian Ye afterwards.
While they celebrate, a messenger reports that Wu Jing is dying in Wu Cheng. Wu Jing wants Sun Jian to visit him immediately. Sun Jian joins the group. Zhou Yu temporary departs in order to defend Jian Ye. When Sun Jian meets Wu Jing, Wu Jing asks Sun Jian to succeed him in ruling Jiang Dong. Wu Jing then dies. Cai Mao rushes in and reports that Cao Cao launches an invasion with 1,000,000 troops. Cai Mao has to run to Jiang Xia and defend Cao Cao. Sun Jian doubts Cai Mao?s motivation. He decides to consult with Zhou Y? in Jian Ye.
Zhou Y? advises Sun Jian to take over as the ruler of Jiang Dong immediately. But Sun Jian hesitates. Zhou Y? therefore joins the group and they head to Fu Chun, located south of Wu Cheng. Sun Jian and Zhou Y? enter the palace, where soldiers strong advocate an alliance with Liu Bei. They speak to Sun Yi, who stands beside the throne. Sun Yi says that an ambassador of Liu Bei, Zhu Ge Liang, is missing. Sun Jian then takes over the throne, asking Sun Ce and Zhou Yu to save Zhu Ge Liang. By the way, Fu Chun sells an iron bow and a copper shield. Han Dang should equip the iron bow while everyone upgrades his shield to copper.
Sun Ce, Zhou Y?, and others travel to Jian Ye first. They encounter Cao Cao?s generals, including Cao Hong (2200), Liu X?n (2100), Cao Xiu (1800), and Zhang Xi (1700). None of them is very strong although their soldier counts are high. Besides, none of them casts tactics. Yi Xin (costs 6 SP like the original game, not 32 in the Wei mod) is very useful in this battle. Zhou Yu and Cheng Pu can lock one or two generals while others focus on Cao Hong and Zhang Xi. Sun Ce, Zhou Y?, and others recapture Jian Ye. They talk to a person in the palace. He actually hides Zhu Ge Liang. He promises to free him. After the conversation, he leaves.
The Wu troops return to Fu Chun. Zhu Ge Liang stands beside Sun Jian. But he does not join at this point. Instead, he asks Sun Ce and Zhou Y? to find a boat so they can head to Chai Sang. Cao Cao?s troops hold the boats in Wu Cheng. Sun Ce and Zhou Y? then attack the Cao forces at Wu Cheng. Cao?s generals are Yue Jin (2300), Li Dian (2200), Y? Jin (2100), and L? Qian (1900). This is a very good opportunity to use Yan Re (level 20). Zhou Y? and Cheng Pu control Yue Jin and Y? Jin via Yan Re. Sun Ce, Tai Shi Ci, and Han Dang concentrate on Li Dian. After killing those three, L? Qian is very easy. Sun Ce and Zhou Y? seize a small boat although Yue Jin burns the rest. They return to Fu Chun. Zhu Ge Liang (strength: 122; intelligence: 255; equips swords) joins them and they go to Chai Sang. Sun Jian?s younger son, Sun Q?an, sits on the throne. He and three generals pose three questions for Zhu Ge Liang to solve: southeasterly wind, Arrow Storm, and Cai Mao. Zhu Ge Liang and the rest go to a village east of Chai Sang. An old man tells them that a place far in the northeast (Japan) has methods to control wind directions. Before boarding the boat for Japan, train up several levels patiently (at least up to 21 with the Y? Lin array). You need them a lot.
When Sun Ce?s troops train enough levels, they board the boat and head to Mount Fuji. They encounter an old man instead of Himiko on top of Fuji, in the middle of a lake. This man is Y? Ji. He leads Ge X?an (3000), Ji Zi X?n (3000), Jie Tan (3000), and Liu Gen. All of them challenge Sun Ce to a battle. Since each of them has an intelligence of 255, tactics do not succeed. Try the Y? Lin array and focus on one after the other. Zhou Y??s Y? Lin array reduces the enemy?s success in tactics. Meanwhile, Sun Ce, Tai Shi Ci, and Han Dang defeat the five ?mystics? one by one. After the victory, Y? Ji gives Zhou Y? the Wind Scroll. Zhu Ge Liang carries it because only he can pray to the wind with the scroll. Everyone returns to Chai Sang immediately. Overall, this Fuji battle is the most difficult by far. We must have the Y? Lin array in order to win. If you have time to train up to level 23 with Ce Fan, you are in an even better position.
The remaining questions are Cai Mao and the Arrow Storm. Cai Mao is in Jiang Xia but rocks block the pathway to it. Zhu Ge Liang then heads northeast from Chai Sang to a cave. He finds the Saltpeter. An old man in Chai Sang agrees to synthesize Gun Powder for him if he obtains a piece of deadwood. This is easy. Zhu Ge Liang uses the ?check? command on the tree behind the old man. He finds the deadwood. He talks to the old man and receives the Gun Powder. Zhu Ge Liang, Zhou Y?, and Sun Ce board the boat and head to Jiang Xia. They pass Bo Wang and blow the rocks apart by using the Gun Powder. Before they attack Jiang Xia, they head northwest to a cave. They pick up a flame armour and equip it. Subsequently, they head back and attack Cai Mao at Jiang Xia. Since it is located beside a lake, fire tactics are not available. Enemy troops in Jiang Xia include Cai Mao (2300), Zhang Y?n (1750), Wen Ping (1800), Kuai Yue (1650), Wang Can (1600). Generals with higher strength (Sun Ce, Tai Shi Ci, Han Dang) kill Kuai Yue (intelligence: 212) first. Meanwhile, Zhou Y? and Cheng Pu weaken Cai Mao and Wen Ping by casting Shui Lei.
Zhu Ge Liang and others go to the second floor of Jiang Xia?s palace. They find the Arrow Storm, iron weapons, shields, helmets, and armours. This is a wonderful to upgrade all weapons, shields, and helmets. They return to Chai Sang and report to Sun Q?an. All three problems are solved. The battle against Cao Cao should be ready; however, another problem occurs. How can they chain Cao Cao?s ships together in order for the fire tactic to maximize the damage? They must find someone to convince Cao Cao so he would chain the ships together.
Zhu Ge Liang suggests ?Little Phoenix? Pang Tong to coax Cao Cao into tying the ships into chains. They head to Lu Su?s hut. Lu Su tells them that Pang Tong resides in a hut south of Chai Sang. Everyone returns to Chai Sang and head south. Instead of boarding a boat and navigating a water pathway, they walk through a strip of land between two lakes. Pang Tong?s hut is located west of the land strip. They meet Pang Tong, asking him for help. Pang Tong immediately agrees and he leaves for Cao Cao.
The Chi Bi War is now set. Zhu Ge Liang carries the wind scroll in the lineup and hands the tactician duty to Cheng Pu. As soon as they encounter Cao Cao?s forces (Cao Cao: 10,000; X? Zhu: 9800, Dian Wei: 9600; Zhang Liao: 9400; X? Huang: 9200), Zhu Ge Liang prays for southeasterly wind according to the scroll. The rest of the story develops on its own. Cao Cao?s force suffered a major defeat, losing many soldiers. Cao Cao runs for his life in Jing Zhou, under intense pursuit from the forces of Sun Jian and Liu Bei. But Guan Y? releases Cao Cao so Cao Cao survives the pursuit.
Note: The Fuji battle is the most difficult of all battles in this chapter. Wu troops must train as many levels as they can. In ROTK, Sun Ce killed Y? Ji because Sun Ce thought that Y? Ji?s mystical beliefs misled people. But Y? Ji?s ghost haunted Sun Ce subsequently. Sun Ce gradually died and Sun Q?an succeeded him.
September 19, 2006 at 11:58 pm #21966Taishi CiParticipantI posted it. Not sure why you weren’t able to, I can edit both my own articles and the Lord’s. Just click on the pencil icon next to the article name (if there’s not one, the Lord may need to give you access to the edit feature).
I will point out that you can use Water tactics on some of the Mystics and it will work, I had Huang Gai and Zhou Yu casting it and they connected about a third of the time. Yu Ji seems more resistant against them though, since he has the terrain advantage.
Just for reference, who are the other four mystics? Famous sages from Chinese history, perhaps?
September 20, 2006 at 3:23 am #21967SamuelParticipantThe other four mystics were Daoist practitioners during the Han Dynasty, Yu Ji, Ge Xuan, and Jie Yan (actually not Jie Tan) came from Wu of the Three Kingdom Period. Ji Zi Xun lived during the time of Eastern Han. Liu Gen was from late Western Han.
Daoists believe that people can train to become gods. They learn to make miraculous pills too. These five people practice these ideologies. They are not sages because they are not intellectuals.
September 20, 2006 at 5:39 pm #21968Zhang LuParticipantI beat the Mystics without using Yu Lin :P
I used San Kai and was leveled about 5-10 levels higher. Great stuff so far though :)
Zhang Lu
They see me throwin' fireballs out of my sword, they runnin'.September 22, 2006 at 5:35 am #21969SamuelParticipantIndeed Zhang Lu, you do not have to implement the Yu Lin array because you increase 5-10 levels.
Here is my guide for the thrilling Jing Zhou chapter:
Chapter 4: The Battle for the Lord of Jing Zhou
Cao Cao has not given up Jing Zhou and Jiang Dong. He has seized Jian Ye, Jiang Xia, Yi Ling, and Jiang Ling. Sun Jian asks Zhou Y? to drive out Cao Cao?s troops and control Jing Zhou. Sun Ce begins at Fu Chun, paying 500 gold pieces to a man in the northeast of Fu Chun. Sun Ce and comrades learn that Cao Cao hides a Tally Order in front of the throne at Wu Cheng?s palace. They pick it up and head for Jian Ye. Zhang Liao guards Jian Ye and he does not fall into the Tally Order. He himself battles Wu troops. Zhang Liao is a formidable opponent (3000 soldiers) although he is alone. Attacks inflict little damages and tactics succeed occasionally. But Wu troops must be patient and reduce Zhang Liao?s soldier counts little by little. Eventually Zhang Liao succumbs to defeat. Wu troops recapture Jian Ye. L? Meng (strength: 216; intelligence: 227; equips swords) welcomes them in the castle. He joins the group after helping Sun Ce and company several times in the past.
Sun Ce continues the quest by heading southwest towards Jiang Xia. Instead of the Bo Wang Pass, the group can take a short cut via Wu Cheng and Lu Su?s hut. They enter Jiang Xia via the Tally Order. However, Cao Cao?s general Li Tong (3600) confiscates the plan. He challenges Sun Ce and the group. Li Tong is much weaker than Zhang Liao in terms of abilities. The battle should be easy if we have Luo Shi (level 24). We can decide who will be our tactician. Most people go with Zhou Y? because his intelligence value is the highest among all available Wu officers. But I make a strong case for L? Meng, whose intelligence value is only three points less than Zhou Y?. L? Meng is the only Wu general among the current ones that learns Ce Fan at level 23. Neither Zhou Y? nor Cheng Pu knows it. Even though Wu troops lose only 1 SP with L? Meng being the tactician, it is worth to have Ce Fan during battles. Besides, the tactician does not automatically fall into the end of the order during battles. We can utilize L? Meng?s strength and intelligence in any fights. Ce Fan really strengthens the protection (especially among generals with low intelligence) from enemies? tactics.
The battle for Jing Zhou really starts now. Sun Ce and his comrades board a ferry southwest of Jiang Xia. They head south to Yi Ling. Two of Cao Cao?s generals, X? Huang (2700) and Man Chong (2500), attack. X? Huang is a difficult opponent because his strength value is 227. His attacks create severe damage so the Wu troops must reduce his soldier counts fast. Meanwhile, Man Chong?s intelligence index is 203. Wu troops cannot ignore his tactics. The key is to defeat Man Chong while controlling X? Huang?s attacks. Wu troops enter Yi Ling after the victory.
In Yi Ling (pick up an iron shield), they hear that Cao Ren leads the final group of Cao Cao?s forces. Cao Ren settles in Jiang Ling (guess from the Katakana). The story, however, twists from the original at this point. A lake blocks the eastward path so Wu troops can only go south via a mountain path. Interestingly, a general blocks the path. He is Guan Y? and he challenges a Wu general to a duel. The first general in the lineup fights him so place Sun Ce in the front. Sun Ce?s 100 soldiers fight Guan Y??s 100 soldiers. Guan Y? retreats after one round, probably because he senses Wu troops? strength.
The path is cleared. Sun Ce and comrades go through it and head east. They pass a lake and see Jiang Ling southeast of the lake. Wu troops need to train levels before attacking Jiang Ling, since subsequent battles will be very difficult. I notice some generals? soldier counts are over 4000. Some of them are even over 5000. I recommend to train up to 26 in order to use Li Jian. In Jiang Ling, Wu troops fight Cao Ren (2800) and Niu Jin (2600). They are much easier than X? Huang and Man Chong. Neither Cao Ren nor Niu Jin can cast tactics. Their intelligence values are very low. Li Jian and Luo Shi are very useful.
Cao Ren and Niu Jin escape to a castle after the defeat. But Guan Y? and his troops (Guan Ping, Zhou Cang, Yi Ji, Fu Shi Ren) have seized it. They killed Cao Ren and Niu Jin. The battle of Jing Zhou is now between Sun Jian and Liu Bei, as Guan Y? controls the unidentified Castle. Wu troops enter Jiang Ling, discovering that the castle?s outlook is the same as Chang Sha from the original DOAE2. In this mod, Wu troops attack the four southern Jing castles in reverse order. The castles? names have changed too. I can only guess them because I cannot read Japanese.
Jiang Qin stands at the gate of Jiang Ling and he joins (strength: 217; intelligence: 132; equips bows). Sun Ce and company enter a house in the northwest. They talk to a man and he disappears. Then, they go to the house in the southeast and talk to Zhou Tai. He runs away, offering a funeral to his former lord. Then, he joins too (strength: 226; intelligence: 89, equips axes). Sun Ce and others do not need to obtain the Yang You Bow in this mod. The cave northwest of Jiang Ling is cut off too. Jiang Ling?s weapon shop sells both steel axes and steel bows. Buy a steel ax for Zhou Tai and a steel bow for Jiang Qin. I replace Han Dang with Jiang Qin, as well as Huang Gai with Zhou Tai. The abilities of Han Dang and Huang Gai are a lower than Jiang Qin and Zhou Tai. Besides, Jiang Qin and Zhou Tai can take advantage on the steel bow and ax. Wu troops head east and they see a village. A castle is located southwest of the village.
The castle is the Nan Castle (Wu Ling in the original DOAE2) for this mod. People in the village tell Sun Ce that Nan citizens hope to surrender to Sun Jian. But a moat surrounds Nan so Sun Ce cannot attack. How to seize Nan without hurting citizens? Sun Ce heads to Nan and picks up a steel spear (equip it for Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci by duplicating one) outside Nan. Then, they head southwest to the cape. They encounter a man (Han Zhong???), who promises to coax Nan?s guarding general leaving the castle. Han Zhong wants to serve Sun Jian and he agrees to coax Nan?s general out of the castle. Make sure to pick up a tactic potion and a steel shield in the cape. Equip the steel shield for everyone by making six duplicates.
Go to Nan and talk to the general, whose name is Mi Fang (4500). Mi Fang discovers the plot and he desperately battles Wu troops. Despite the fact that his soldier counts are high, his abilities are very weak. He does not even know any tactics. Wu troops should have no trouble taking him out. Subsequently, Mi Fang receives the Jin Xuan treatment. Wu troops enter Nan and upgrade their weapons. I anticipate the upcoming battles to be very difficult. Some of Liu Bei?s generals have soldier counts above 5000. Therefore, I train up several levels.
The castle northeast of Nan is apparently called Gong An (guess from Katakana and Chinese geography). Sun Ce, Zhou Y?, and others enter without a battle. An officer, Wang Fu, greets Wu troops and invites Zhou Y? for tea. In the palace, Wang Fu unveils his plan by attempting to murder Zhou Y?. But a man enters at this moment. His name is Fu Shi Ren, who kills Wang Fu with one blow. Sun Ce and everyone else rush in the palace, thinking that Fu Shi Ren tries to murder Zhou Y?. Fu Shi Ren surrenders to Wu and becomes Wu troops? backup. He sits on the throne and guards Gong An. But people in Gong An are worried. They tell Zhou Y? not to trust Fu Shi Ren entirely. An iron helmet is available in Gong An.
Wu troops encounters a general blocking the mountain pass north of Gong An. He is Zhou Cang (3000). Talk to him and he leads Liao Hua (2900) to fight Wu troops. They are not difficult because they cannot cast tactics. Luo Shi can easily beat them. The mountain pass is cleared. Everyone heads to the village north (pick up a tactic potion) of the pass. They hear news that Guan Y? leads Liu Bei?s army in Jing Zhou. Sun Ce and Zhou Y? will engage in intrigue battles for the rest of the way. I like the setup of this chapter so far. This mod vividly portrays the heated battle for Jing Zhou among Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and the Sun clan after Chi Bi. I enjoy this chapter very much, especially playing without knowing the story flow in advance.
Back to the Wu mod, a gate is located north of the village and Wu troops attack it. Liu Bei?s generals are Yi Ji (2600) and Zhao Lei (3300). The battle is more difficult than it appears. Yi Ji and Zhao Lei can cast Li Jian with high probability of success. Wu troops should play generals with high intelligence in order to reduce Li Jian?s damage. After the triumph, they head north and find a hut. L? Meng must be in the lineup so that the two guardians move away. They meet two people: Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong. Both of them encourage Wu to take control of Jing Zhou.
The quest continues with an assault on Ba Qiu (another guess from the Katakana and Chinese geography). A gate is in front of it, southeast of Zhang Zhao?s hut. Zhao Lei (3300), Yi Ji (2600), and Guan Suo (2300) guard the gate. Make sure to play the intelligent generals (Zhou Y?, L? Meng, and Cheng Pu). Sun Ce and comrades charge the Ba Qiu Castle. They encounter Guan Y? (3600), Guan Ping (3400), Zhou Cang (3000), Wang Fu (3100), and Ma Liang (3300). Attacks from the Guans and Zhou Cang seriously hurt Wu troops. Zhou Y? and L? Meng respectively cast Ce Fan on Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci. Wu troops therefore completely shut down tactics from Wang Fu and Ma Liang. Focus on Guan Y? while intelligent generals defeat Guan Ping and Zhou Cang via Luo Shi, Fu Sha (level 29), and Li Jian. Wu troops eventually win Ba Qiu and find a steel shield.
Wu troops visit Zhang Zhao again, hoping that he and Zhang Hong join. But a soldier reports that Guan Y? has seized Gong An. He leads 700,000 Liu Bei troops in defense. Zhang Zhao tells Sun Ce and comrades to recapture Gong An first. When they arrive at Gong An, Guan Y? is not present. Instead, Zhang Fei (6000) and Feng Xi (4600) lead reinforcements. Even though they cannot cast tactics, their soldier counts and attack powers pose threats to Wu troops. Focus on Zhang Fei. Throw Li Jian or Fu Sha at him. If Wu troops manage to control Zhang Fei, they can pay attention to Feng Xi. This battle is easier than it appears. Wu troops defeat Zhang Fei, who flees to Yi Ling.
While Wu troops are on the way to Yi Ling, they find out that Liu Bei?s troops take over Jiang Ling as well. Sha Mo Ke (5800) and Ma Liang (3300) guard Jiang Ling. Use Li Jian on Sha Mo Ke and focus on Ma Liang. The battle should not be too difficult, since Sha Mo Ke easily falls into tactics. Sha Mo Ke flees to Yi Ling after the defeat.
Wu troops head to Yi Ling. They receive a big surprise: Liu Bei (7000) leads the battle and he launches a fire attack! Zhang Fei (6000), Feng Xi (4600), Sha Mo Ke (5800), and Huang Quan (5200) fight along. Even though the fire does not burn Wu troops every round, the battle is still more difficult than Fuji. Liu Bei and Huang Quan can cast Li Jian on Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci. Their soldier counts are so high that Wu troops require a long time to reduce. The key is to cast Li Jian and Fu Sha on Zhang Fei, Feng Xi, and Sha Mo Ke. These three generals have low intelligence. They help Wu troops by striking one another. Fu Sha is powerful. It ties up a potent general for the rest of the battle as long as an enemy tactician does not use Jie Ce. I recommend Wu troops to reach level 31. Wu troops can restrict enemy?s Li Jian via Jie Ce. After a hard earned victory, Sun Jian drives out Liu Bei and becomes the undisputed ruler of Jing Zhou. Wu troops return to Zhang Zhao?s hut. But his followers tell Sun Ce that they have gone to Jian Ye. Everyone then returns to Jian Ye triumphantly.
As soon as they return, they discover that people have built Jian Ye into the biggest castle of Jiang Dong (The rebuilt Jian Ye has a steel armour and a dragon sword). The grandeur can compare Luo Yang. Zhu Zhi rejoins the group and he can enjoy his rewards in the billet. The group talks to Zhang Zhao (strength: 120; intelligence: 240; equips swords) and Zhang Hong (strength: 97; intelligence: 233; equips swords) at the palace. As promise, they join Sun Jian. If you enjoy generals with high intelligence, this is a marvelous opportunity. You have Cheng Pu, Zhang Zhao, Zhang Hong, and L? Meng at your disposal. But one mystery remains: why do Wu troops not need to take the Fan and Xiang Yang Castle? If they do not exist in the Wu mod, why does the map show them?
In spite of the questions about Fan and Xiang Yang, this chapter is the most thrilling thus far. Wu troops fight many tense battles (Zhang Liao at Jian Ye, Guan Y? at Ba Qiu, Liu Bei and Zhang Fei at Yi Ling) and seize Jing Zhou in a very strenuous way. Once again, the layout beautifully reflects the intense rivalry among Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Quan when they battled for Jing Zhou after Chi Bi.
September 22, 2006 at 11:11 am #21970Taishi CiParticipantWei should still be in charge of Xiangyang and Fan, I think. The map points are probably just oversights.
September 23, 2006 at 4:01 am #21971SamuelParticipantI agree. Guan Yu can take Lu Bu’s position.
I am now at the Shu stage, invading Han Zhong. The Wu mod actually cuts off the whole Blood Seal episode. It omits Emperor Jing’s tomb and the small hut south of the tomb. This is quite an ULTIMATE HAPPINESS.
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