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hey everyone i was working on a nanman mod but the program doesn't work on my computer any more for some reason but if some one wants to finish it or add some input for when i get it to work again, here are the officer swhich
liu bei- meng heng(or nanman king), 235str, 85int, 565 troops
zhang fei- meng you, 235str, 185int, zhao yun growth troops
guan yu- zhu rong, 245str, 225int, ma chao growth troops
song bro 1- wu tu gu, 253str, 145int, zhang fei growth
song bro 2- king dousi, 157str, 250int, huang zhong growth
mi zhu- dong tu na, 210str, 195int, guan yu growth
guy in first yellow turban fort(north one)- dali dongzhu, 180str, 85int, zhao yun growth
liu feng- meng hou, 250str, 165int, zhang fei growth
nanman is a great force to add into another mod. Ie: i added multiple meng huo battles/forces in my Rise of Lu Bu mod. Would take a great story teller to make a whole mod starring only them I think
i just need help with the officers right now i mean its easy to do the story its getting the officers right
fortunately due to recent mod coding, you can leave all the officers the same, just start w/ the nanman officers in an area by moving the warp pts. to south of Shu and change the encounters :)
re: op
depends on your goal and how you want to ramp difficulty
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after playing many of the downright brutal DoaE, it was nice to play the lubu mod that was fairly balanced although still more difficult than the original.
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if you want things to be difficult, you'll be having brutal ap/ac on enemies or high soldier counts on enemy generals.
something to think about — do you want the party to evolve over time, or is enemy recruitment just a matter of removing annoyances from random encounters ?
Keep in mind that with that starting group, you have a party worthy for the end of the game (aside form the 85 int) before even leaving the first town or fighting your first battle. The biggest threat is Meng Heng's 85 int, which gets fixed (by the meng huo replacement) looooooong before you get anywhere near An Sha.
Meanwhile the vanilla game starts you with only two officers you'll be keeping for a long time; it's not until the end of chapter 5 that you have five soldier-gaining officers.
The problem I had when I started the Rise of Lu Bu mod was "why would anyone even want to use Lu Bu @ endgame if he has 80 int instead of slightly weaker guys who have 200+ int?"
This is a big question you will have to aleviate in your mod if you plan on having Nanman officers as your main characters. Or you can just do like Midknight's mod and give people like Yuan Shang 220 int and call it a day :D
I think there was another Lu Bu mod which I tried for a short stint before I couldn't stand it anymore. It gave Lu Lingqu like 240 str and 230 int… or something like that, but it kind of wrecks the game if you just front load the game with UBER officers that you never get rid of or have a need to replace.
As for the Lu Bu mod, Lu Bu is Lu Bu; just have his soldiers skyrocket, ending with 60,000 or so at level 50! That, plus the improved damage formula mod, plus being unanshaable makes him usable.
Quote:something to think about — do you want the party to evolve over time, or is enemy recruitment just a matter of removing annoyances from random encounters ?yes i do, micromanagement will be avalible in this mod now
liu bei- meng heng(or nanman king), lvl15, 235war, 185int, 125agi, 150leadership, 700health, 90tp(limited teir 1 tactics), 30 attribute points
zhang fei- meng you, lvl1, 45war(B growth), 35int(B growth), 35agi(B growth), 35leadership(B growth), 150health(B growth), 5tp(B growth) (limited tactics only support), 2 attribute points a lvl,
guan yu- zhu rong, lvl1, 65war(A growth), 55int(A growth), 75agi(S growth), 45leadership(B+ growth), 175health(A growth), 10tp(A growth)(limited tactics only fire), 3 attribute points a lvl
song bro 1- wu tu gu, lvl1, 83war(S growth), 32int(C growth), 25agi(D growth), 50leadership(A growth), 250health(S growth), 0tp(no tactics), 2 attribute points a lvl
song bro 2- king dousi, lvl1 35war(C growth), 75int(A+ growth), 35agi(C growth), 45leadership(B growth), 100 health(D growth), 15 tp(A+ growth), 4 attribute points a lvl
mi zhu- dong tu na, lvl1, 50 war(B+ growth), 45int(B+ growth), 25 agi(B growth), 35leadership(B growth), 150 health(B+ growth), 5tp(C growth), 2 attribute points a lvl
guy in first yellow turban fort(north one)- dali dongzhu, lvl1, 45war(B growth), 5int(D growth), 25 agi(D growth), 20leadership (C growth), 100health(B growth), 0tp(no tactics), 2 attribute points a lvl
liu feng- meng hou, lvl1, 75war(A+ growth), 37int(C growth), 50agi(C growth), 45leadership(B+growth), 225health(S growth), 5tp(C growth) (limited teir 2 tactics), 3 attribute points a lvl
growth rankings
S-godlike growth (7-8)
A+ (6-7)
A (5-6)
B+ (4-5)
B (3-4)
C (2-3)
D (1-2)
F-terrible growth (0-1points per lvl) (none here as of yet but working on it)
don't have a hp pattern yet
leadership is well importent now i added it i'll explain
atk=(war+WP+15%lead+10%int)
def=(lead+AC+15%int+10%war)
for damage formula only
damage dealt=(Attacker-Defender)lvl/2
Attacker=atk+5%troopcount+X
Defneder=def+5%troopcount+Y
X=random verible between 1-100
Y=random verible between 1-100
tactics= (((tactic power + int + 5%troop count) X lvl)/number of targets)- (target int X target lvl)
healing tactics=((tactic power + int + 5%troop count) X lvl)/number of targets
complex i know
will try to finish by christmas and have a beta ready, will add officers as i go along, thinking of adding skills unit type as well, if i do officers will gain 1 skill point a lvl, and i will do so many party skill points per battle which will be used to buy skills and tactics and change troop type
troop types
archer
crossbow
spear
sword
pike
cav
navy(yes you will be fighting ship battles)
300 skill points to change type
spoiler
1st boss fight is all five tigers of shu
Keep in mind that (by going form levle 1 to level 50) +5/level would take someone from a truly pathetic 10 strength to the max of 255 strength.
Instead, you may wish to calculate the stats as max*(level+14)/64. Zhuge Liang, for example, would go from 59 int (at levle 1) to 255 int (at level 50).
You will, of course, have to lower int learning values, and TP would have to be edited as well.
Quote:Keep in mind that (by going form levle 1 to level 50) +5/level would take someone from a truly pathetic 10 strength to the max of 255 strength.Instead, you may wish to calculate the stats as max*(level+14)/64. Zhuge Liang, for example, would go from 59 int (at levle 1) to 255 int (at level 50).
work in progress i will keep that in mind, was trying to think how to fix this problem
Quote:You will, of course, have to lower int learning values, and TP would have to be edited as well.yes if i don't go with the skill point system(75% chance i will use), and i have each officer with own tp values and can only use their tactics but you don't need to set a strategist, this way you don't have 5 people who can an sha in one party or among the enemy,
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