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Samuel
ParticipantIn Fu Shui (ie. Lu Castle in the original), Wei troops talk to a soldier outside two houses at the northeast corner. In Cheng Du (Luo Yang in the original), they talk to an old man in the western part of the castle.
Anyway, you do not need to cheat against these two secret bosses. I have defeated them without cheating. I have taken some screen shots as evidence but how can I post them? It appears that I can insert images only if they are on the web.
Samuel
ParticipantTaishi Ci is right.
The trick is posted under the thread entitled "Zhang Lu."
Samuel
ParticipantKeep working on it, Chieftain. I have written the key combination in my guide. You can depend on it whenever you are stuck.
All the best in Luo Yang (you need it). Please share your feelings and experiences in the Luo Yang war when you reach there.
Samuel
ParticipantYou are very welcome. It is my pleasure to write these guides. I think that we are the first in providing English guides for these two mods.
The Wu mod is harder than the Wei mod, in my opinion. Final battles in Yi Ling, Cheng Du, and Luo Yang are extremely difficult. The Fuji fights is much easier than these three.
I would rate the Luo Yang showdown as the hardest battle of DOAE, DOAE2, DOAE2 Wei mod, and DOAE2 Wu mod. It is insane that we have to fight five consecutive battles. In additiion, Wei forces frequently shoot arrow storms at us in the fourth one. We lose 4000 to 5000 soldiers. I therefore strongly recommend you and others to reach maximum levels for the Wu mod.
Samuel
ParticipantOk, the final part of my Wu Mod guide is available. This guide should answer your questions about the key combination for breaking Si Ma Yi’s thunder, Dong Zhuo, and the secret cave. If you have more doubts and sharing, please feel free to post them:
Chapter 6: Unify China by Defeating Wei
Soldiers have cleared the rocks at Luo Feng Pass. Wu troops can attack Han Zhong via Luo Feng. Cao Cao?s troops have occupied the Yang Ping and Nan Zheng Citadels, as well as Han Zhong. Wu generals battle Wei forces first at Yang Ping. Cao Cao?s generals include Cao Hong (7200), Cao Xiu (7100), and X? Huang (8200). All three of them appear in previous chapters. X? Huang is the most dangerous on account of his strength (227) and his attack power (200). I take him out with Ji Shi first. Then, Cao Hong and Cao Xiu are easy.
Wu troops continue the Han Zhong battles at Nan Zheng. Cao Cao?s forces strengthen as they have Cao Zhang (7800), Han Hao (7500), Zhang He (8000), and Guo Huai (7600). Cao Zhang (strength: 242, Cao Cao?s third son) and Zhang He (strength: 225) are very dangerous because of their strengths. Guo Huai is good at both attacks and tactics (strength: 187, intelligence: 200). If Wu troops can quickly take out Cao Zhang with Ji Shi, they have an easier time. Han Hao can be left until Cao Zhang, Zhang He, and Guo Huai are defeated.
Han Zhong is the final showdown for this part of the story. The battle is obviously more challenging than Nan Zheng. Xia Hou Yuan (8400) leads X? Huang (8200), Zhang He (8000), Cao Zhang (7800), and Xia Hou Shang (7300). Every Wei generals except Xia Hou Shang has strength over 200. You are in big trouble if they ambush you. They do it against me. I lose Sun Ce before I plan my attacks. Wu troops must carry lots of silver and revival potions. Ji Shi is not available because Han Zhong is not close to mountains. Huo Shen becomes crucial for victory although it does not always succeed. I win in my second attempt (Gan Ning dies in my second try). The generals? attacks are really devastating.
Wu troops rest one night and talk to Sun Jian, who arrives from Cheng Du on the next day. A soldier reports Cao Cao?s usurp on the Han throne. Zhou Y? suggests Sun Jian to become the king of Wu. Sun Jian agrees and he is anointed king. He then decides to invade and conquer Cao Cao so he can restore the Han Empire. He assigns Sun Ce to defend Jian Ye and Cheng Pu to defend Cheng Du. Sun Ce and Cheng Pu leave the party permanently. Sun Jian delegates Zhou Y? to lead Wu troops for the war against Cao Cao and Wei.
Zhou Y? and others leave the palace. Sun Quan (strength: 228; intelligence: 207; equips swords) stands at the door. He succeeds his older brother, Sun Ce, and his father, Sun Jian, as a combat general. Zhu Ge Jin?s son, Zhu Ge Ke (strength: 116; intelligence: 218; equips spears) joins too. I pick up Tai Shi Ci at the billet before I talk to Zhu Ge Ke. In doing so, I prevent the possibility of not being able to take him out. Zhu Ge Ke turns out to be relatively weak. Sun Quan is decent so I am happy to keep him. If you are uncomfortable with Sun Quan?s intelligence, you can replace him with Zhang Zhao.
Wu troops enter Wei territory from Han Zhong. They head southeast (soldiers have removed rocks blocking the path east of Han Zhong) and pass the Feng Ming gate without a fight. The Nan An Castle is southeast of Feng Ming. This is the first of a lengthy war against Cao Cao and Wei. Wei defenders include Qin Liang (8200), Han Ji (7600), and Cen Wei (7800). None of them is particularly strong. Wu troops easily seize Nan An. A famous doctor named Hua Tuo lives there. He offers Wu generals a free rest. People in Nan An tell Sun Quan the three castles in the nearby area: Nan An, An Ding, and Tian Shui. Cao Zhen guards Tian Shui. A Void Spear is available. I give it to Tai Shi Ci.
An Ding is east of Nan An so Sun Quan leads Wu generals to attack it. Qin Lang (8200), Zai Ling (8000), Zheng Wen (7300), and Fei Yao (7800) guard it. The four generals are weak although they have many soldiers. Besides, they are not mentioned in history. Wu troops should have another easy battle. An Ding has an Emperor Sabre and a Gold Stone. No capable Wu general equips the Emperor Sabre so Sun Quan sells it. They also meet an old lady but she is too ill to talk. Sun Quan attacks Tian Shui and Wu troops encounter Cao Zhen (9000), Wang Shuang (8800), Zhang Hu (8400), Yue Lin (8600), and Xin Pi (8400). Cao Zhen and Wang Shuang are the dangerous enemies. Wu forces get rid of Wang Shuang by casting Ji Shi. Cao Zhen can form a Ji Mo array so take him out next. Then, focus on Xin Pi. Tian Shui has a Great Armour and a Barrage Sword. The armoury shop sells a Nu Long Sword. Sword users can upgrade their weapons.
Rocks block the mountain pass northeast of Tian Shui. Otherwise, people can reach Chen Cang and Chang An directly. Wu troops must take the long road. They move north and the terrain has changed from the original DOAE2. A cave is northeast of Tian Shui. Sun Quan goes there. Wu troops find the Gauntlet, the Cloud Burst Scroll, and a few more items. This cave is the same as the one southeast of Bei Yuan in the original game. A mountain pass is located further north. When they go there, Deng Ai (9400) ambushes via a fire attack! His generals include Wen Qin (8600), Wen Yang (8400), Guo Huai (7600), and Chen Tai (8600). Their powerful attacks and fire defeat Wu troops easily.
Fortunately, Ji Ping rescues them and brings them back to An Ding. He says that Wen Qin and Wen Yang are forced to serve Deng Ai because of their ailing mother. He bestows Sun Quan a reference letter. He takes to Hua Tuo at Nan An so Hua Tuo will heal the Wens? mother. However, a general guards Hua Tuo?s house in Nan An. Talk to him and choose ?no?. A fight begins. In fact, two generals guard Hua Tuo?s house. They are Wei Guan (7100) and Tian X? (7000). Tian X? is very weak but Wei Guan can cast tactics. Kill Wei Guan first.
Sun Quan show Ji Ping?s reference letter to Hua Tuo, who runs to An Ding and heal the mother of Wen Qin and Wen Yang. When Sun Quan and the rest arrive at An Ding, Hua Tuo and Ji Ping have healed the Wens? mother. Sun Quan leaves An Ding in order to explain to the Wen brother. But they come and attack Wu troops. Since they are on their own, Wu generals defeat them quickly. They try to escape but Sun Quan and others catch them up. Zhou Y? explains everything. Wen Qin and Wen Yang then leave Cao Cao. They vanish and I cannot find them in the billet. But they are not very useful so I am not too concerned.
Zhou Y? leaves the team. He needs to invent a new weapon. Wu troops continue their conquest with Lu Xun being their tactician. I insert Zhang Zhao in the lineup for now. Sun Quan goes back to Tian Shui from An Ding. He and others find Zhou Y? in the palace. Zhou Y? commands them to seize Chen Cang. Sun Quan and others travel north from Tian Shui. They reach the Yi Shui citadel (not sure about the name?s accuracy) after passing the mountain pass where Deng Ai ambushed. Cao Zhen (9000), Wang Shuang (8800), Zhang Hu (8400), Yue Lin (8600), and Sun Li (8600) guard it. Four of the five enemy generals are the same as Tian Shui. But Wu troops need to be more careful with Sun Li while focusing on Cao Zhen and Wang Shuang.
In Yi Shui, people tell Sun Quan that the Xie Gu Citadel is in the west. A Gold Stone is available at Yi Shui, whose layout is the same as Si Li of the original DOAE2. I reach level 48 and Lu Xun learns the Ba Gua array; however, I do not have Shui Long. Moreover, Wu troops are heavily outnumbered (2:1 ratio). We need to train many levels in order to strengthen Wu generals? power.
If you feel comfortable with your levels, proceed from Yi Shui along the mountains. Wu troops reach the Xie Gu citadel (equivalent to the Bei Yuan Citadel in the original game). Hao Zhao (8800), Wang Shuang (8800), Chen Tai (8600), and Sun Li (8600) battle Sun Quan and others. All of them are talented so Sun Quan and others have a difficult fight. Strategically take out Wang Shuang by casting Ji Shi. Then, Wu troops focus on Hao Zhao. Sun Li and Chen Tai should not be too difficult after Wang Shuang and Hao Zhao are dead. But if the enemy casts Ji Mian successfully, Wu troops are going to have a tough battle. For this reason, I put a few highly intelligent generals in the lineup (Sun Quan, L? Meng, Lu Su, and if you want, Zhang Zhao). In Xie Gu, people tell Sun Quan that Cao Cao heavily defends Jie Ting.
Sun Quan and others head west from the Xie Gu Citadel. They must pass the Xie Gu Mountains (a Wind Helmet is in one of the chests) before reaching Jia Ting. The Xie Gu Mountains is identical to the mountain pass east of Bei Di in the original game. But Wu troops travel in the reverse direction. They reach the Gao Lao Village (transliterated as Xia Luo in the original game). Most people are old men. A Silver Stone and a pair of Speed Shoes are available. Sun Quan and L? Meng can equip them because their agilities are high (duplication needed). An old man offers Sun Quan water but he does not have a flask to store it. The water in the Gao Lao Village is the best in China. How does the water relate to Wu?s conquest?
Wu troops arrive at Jie Ting after they leave Xia Luo Village. Indeed, five generals guard it so the defense is heavy. But apart from Huan Fan (8000), they are very weak. Cao Shuang (9000), Cao Xun (8800), Cao Yan (8600), Cao Xi (8400) are easy to defeat. Concentrate on Huan Fan (intelligence: 206) first and the Cao generals fall quickly. But they find neither Cao Cao nor Si Ma Yi inside Jie Ting. Where are they? Sun Quan also hears reports that Zhou Y? has invented a new weapon. Everyone decides to meet Zhou Y? at Tian Shui.
However, Cao Cao?s forces ambushes at the mountain pass outside Jia Ting! Wu forces cannot fight them but they must retreat. Deng Ai (9400) launches the first assault. He and his son Deng Zhong (8200) attack Wu forces at the end of the pass. But this mod does not have Si Ma Yi striking every step at the pass. As they retreat, Wu troops discover that Deng Ai has conquered Yi Shui. He, Deng Zhong, and Hu Lie (8200) launch another surprise attack. Wu troops have no choice but retreat. But Deng Ai ambushes for the fourth time at the beginning of the mountain pass south of Yi Shui! Hu Yuan (8000) joins Wei?s ambush. Again, Wu has to retreat. Deng Ai attacks for the fifth time in the pass. Huang Fu Kai (7500) joins as Wei?s fifth general.
They meet Zhou Y? when they finally arrive at Tian Shui. He has already invented a new item. He rejoins and brings it with him. But I have no clue with this new item?s function. I cannot use it during battles. I can equip it in a general but his statistics, attack, and defense remain the same. Anyhow, Wu troops need to recapture Yi Shui and Xie Gu before launching a second attack on Jie Ting. Hu Lie and Hu Yuan guard Yi Shui. They are not very talented generals so this battle is very easy. Wei troops also seized Xie Gu. Wu Qiu Jian (8600) and Zhu Ge Dan (8800, not related to Zhu Ge Liang and Zhu Ge Jin) guard it. This Xie Gu battle is a little harder than Yi Shui but should not be very difficult.
Sun Quan and others reach Jie Ting for the second time. Surprisingly, they enter without a fight. A man says that Deng Ai gathers the troops and retreats from Sun Quan. What is Deng Ai?s strategy? Regardless, everyone heads northeast and invades the Lu Castle. Deng Ai?s comrade, Zhong Hui (9200), leads X? Zhi (8400), X? Yi (8600), Xun Kai (7800), and Qiu Jian (7300) in defense. Zhong Hui?s intelligence is 240 so he is the dangerous man. Xun Kai and Qiu Jian do not have high intelligence values but their Ji Mian can give Wu troops a tough time. Try to control X? Zhi and X? Yi in order to focus on the other three. Fu Sha or Li Fan is good if successful.
Zhong Hui escapes from death after Wu troops seize Lu. In Lu, Sun Quan and comrades find a Half Moon Bow and a Gold Stone. Two storage huts are located in the northeast of Lu. They enter and pick up many valuable weapons, armours, helmets, and shields. Some of them include the Heaven Sword (220 attack), Dragon Spear (220 attack), the Sky Helmet (NOT the best helmet in this mod), the Thunder Shield (80 defense), and the Great Armour (best armour in the game). Wu troops also find a Treatise for Lu Xun. I duplicate one for Zhou Y?, two for Lu Su.
People report that Deng Ai gathers much fire powder. When and where will he launch a fire attack? A woman tells Sun Quan the function of the Cloud Burst. Heavy rain falls when a person prays with it. Sun Quan remembers these news and attack the Qi Shan Citadel, located north of Lu. Pang De (9400) and Pang Hui (7300) guard it. Their strengths are high but they are not very intelligent. Tactics should be very successful and the battle is easy.
According to Sun Quan?s conversations with people in Qi Shan, the Shang Fang Valley is in front of Qi Shan. A woman says that Deng Ai and his troops are in Shang Fang Valley. Wu troops head north from Qi Shan. A man stands at the gate. Sun Quan talks to him and he seems to demand something from the Han Emperor. He does not move away and does not fight. Sun Quan and others leave him (we will deal with him later), taking the eastern path from Qi Shan and they arrive at the Shang Fang Valley.
Deng Ai (9400), Zhong Hui (9200), and Deng Zhong (8200) are there. Deng Ai burns the valley and besieges the Wu forces in a sea of fire. Hu Lie (8200) and Hu Yuan (8000) join them. But Zhou Y? remembers the word from a woman at Lu. He prays to the heavens with the Cloud Burst (only Zhou Y? can use it). Suddenly, large drops of rain fall in Shang Fang. The rain is so heavy that it puts out the fire. Deng Ai is angry and shocked. He challenges Sun Quan?s troops in desperation. The battle remains very difficult if Wu troops? level is too low. Take out Deng Ai and Zhong Hui first. Meanwhile, control Deng Zhong with tactics.
Deng Ai, Zhong Hui, and Deng Zhong die in this battle. Wei loses its three most talented young generals. What fate will Wei face? A soldier reports to Sun Quan. Sun Jian has arrived at Lu. Sun Quan and others then return to Lu. While Sun Jian and Sun Quan celebrate their victory, soldiers report that Cao Cao?s main army is in Luo Yang. Sun Jian then orders Sun Quan to seize Chang An and Luo Yang. As they leave the Lu palace. Lu Kang (strength: 197; intelligence: 226; equips swords) rushes in and joins the group. He is the son of Lu Xun.
The path beyond Shang Fang Valley has been cleared. Everyone moves on. Wei troops suddenly ambush them at the end of Shang Fang. Du Y? (9000) leads Wang Xun (9200) and Zhou Zhi (8600) in the fight. All of them are decent in abilities so Wu troops must be careful. Du Y? can form Jing Mo and cast An Sha. He kills my Gan Ning so we have to bring some revival potions to the battle. They will be handy if one of Wu generals dies of an An Sha.
Wu troops march on. They see a hut in the north but no one is there (we will visit this hut shortly). They head south and reach the Wu Zhang Citadel. Yang Gu (9200), Wang Xun (9200), Zhou Zhi (8600), and Huang Fu Kai (7500) defend it. Wu troops must first defeat Yang Gu and Wang Xun. Meanwhile, intelligent generals cast tactics on Zhou Zhi. In doing so, Wu troops conquer the Wu Zhang Citadel. They pick up a Thunder Ax. They talk to a man, who sells them a Heaven Elixir for 1000 gold pieces. Sun Quan buys it and the man runs away. Wu generals also hear the Ba Gua array from an old man. In this mod, the Ba Gua array costs only 48 SP (instead of 200 in the Wei mod). Even though it prevents enemies from hitting four of our five generals, the array heavily reduces our attack powers. Each strike can only kill approximately 100 to 200 soldiers when we implement the Ba Gua. You can decide whether it is worth using.
Surprisingly, Si Ma Yi does not participate in the Wu Zhang battle. Where is he? Wu troops head south with this question in mind. They encounter a stone maze and they cannot find an exit. They leave the maze and find a hut northeast of it. An old man lives there. He loses a valuable item called Heaven Elixir. Sun Quan purchases it at Wu Zhang and he uses it. Then, the old man tells Sun Quan that Si Ma Yi sets up the stone maze. He intends to slow down Wu troops? advance. Wu troops go south 20 steps, followed by east 20 steps. They find the exit.
Two castles lie ahead of them. Chang An is east of the stone maze. Chen Cang is southwest of Chang An. But Wu troops first enter the Tie Men Mountains, located east of Chang An. They pick up some weapons, armours, and items. Since I am stuck with Lu Su, the Yang You Bow is helpful. Wu troops leave the Tie Men Mountains and store some items in the safe. I keep training levels before I attack Chang An and Chen Cang. I discover that Wu troops learn Shui Long (30 SP in this mod) at level 58. Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong know Jin Xian at level 46. Sun Quan, L? Meng, Lu Su, Zhou Y?, Lu Xun, Lu Kang, Zhang Zhao, and Zhang Hong learn Shui Long. Lu Xun is the only general that knows the Ba Gua array.
Wu troops attack Chang An and Si Ma Yi is there. Suddenly, everything turns into a white blank in front of Wu generals. When they wake up, they lie in a hut instead of fighting Si Ma Yi at Chang An. Sun Quan wonders what has happened. He says ?aren?t we battling Si Ma Yi? Where is this? Why do we end up lying in this small house? They find an old man named Huang Cheng Yan, who rescue them and settle them there (his home). Zhou Y? asks him ?what tactic is Si Ma Yi using?? Huang Cheng Yan replies, ?Si Ma Yi?s tactic is called Luo Lei (thunder tactic), which he learns from Wu Qi (a famous tactician in ancient China).? Zhou Y? says ?is there a solution for this thunder tactic?? Huang Cheng Yan giggles, ?yes, but I won?t teach you unless you bring me tea.? An unexpected episode begins, as this hut is involved in the game.
Wu troops must find tea for Huang Cheng Yan. When they leave Huang?s hut, they find themselves north of Wu Zhang and northeast of Shang Fang. They go to Wu Zhang and enter the house at the right of the inn. A tea merchant is there. He gives Sun Quan tea immediately (good that the game makers do not make Wu troops travel to Tian Shui). Everyone returns to Huang Cheng Yan?s hut and bestows him tea. He is very happy but he demands water. He gives Sun Quan a water bucket, asking him to grab a bucket of pure water at the Gao Lao Village. Now Sun Quan understands how water relates to Wu?s conquest.
They head to the Gao Lao Village right away. The old man near the well happily gives them a bucket of clean water. They return and provide a full bucket of Gao Lao?s clean water to Huang Cheng Yan. But he does not teach them the solution for Si Ma Yi?s thunder tactic. Instead, he asks for a tea set. Wu generals then go to the Lu Castle. The tea set merchant has returned and he lives in the house at the right of the item shop. He gives the best crafted tea set to Sun Quan upon Sun Quan?s request. Sun Quan and his comrades happily return to Huang Cheng Yan?s house, thinking that he will finally tell them the solution for the thunder attack.
Huang Cheng Yan receives the tea set and enjoys his delicious tea. Meanwhile, he tells Sun Quan the solution. When Si Ma Yi utters his lines, players must key ?up, down, down, left, right, left, down, up? immediately after he finishes. This will nullify Si Ma Yi?s thunder tactic. But Zhou Y? wishes an insurance strategy. They come up with a plan, spreading rumours that Zhou Y? is dead. When Si Ma Yi leaves Chang An, Wu troops seize it immediately.
Wu troops march to Chang An confidently. Si Ma Yi tries to launch the thunder attack again (key ?up, down, down, left, right, left, down, up? as soon as he finishes the second part of his line). But he does not realize that Wu troops have nullified it. Sun Quan announces that Zhou Y? has died. Wu troops retreat and Si Ma Yi pursues them. Suddenly, Zhou Y? and Sun Quan emerge. Zhou Y? says that Si Ma Yi has fallen into his trick. Sun Quan tells Si Ma Yi (9999) that his thunder tactic has failed. Zhou Y? then besieges Si Ma Yi?s troops in a widespread fire. Si Ma Yi?s generals include Xia Hou Ba (9400), Xia Hou Wei (8800), Wu Qiu Jian (8600), and Zhu Ge Dan (8800). Si Ma Yi is obviously the most dangerous so take him out first. With the help of the fire, Wu troops easily win. However, Si Ma Yi escapes and runs to Luo Yang.
People in Chang An say that Si Ma Yi has gathered one million troops in Luo Yang. While Wu troops pick up a Fortune Shield and a Power Stone, a man says that the Emperor?s Seal is in the Chen Cang Castle. Sun Quan talks to an old man in the northwestern part of Chang An. He bestows a Snake Spear to him.
Chen Cang is southwest of Chang An. Si Ma Yi?s grandson, Si Ma Yan (9800), defends it. Jia Chong (8400), Cheng Ji (8800), and Cheng Cui (8600) follow him. L? Meng and Zhou Y? can kill Cheng Ji and Cheng Cui by casting Shui Long. This is important because the Chengs? strengths are over 210. The rest can take out Jia Chong. Si Ma Yan is then easy. Sun Quan enters Cheng Cang after the victory. Wu troops visit the hut at the northwest corner. They pick up many treasures, including the Emperor?s Seal (ぎよくじ). A Sky Helmet is available in Chen Cang.
Before Wu troops head to Luo Yang, they recall the man standing at a gate north of Qi Shan (we deal with him now). Sun Quan and others return there. They use the Emperor?s Seal in front of him. He is in fact Dong Zhuo (9999). He demands the seal because he wishes to become the emperor. He leads L? Bu (9800) and Li Ru (9600), challenging Wu troops to a battle in a sea of fire. The battle ends quickly if Wu troops successfully cast Shui Long on Dong Zhuo and L? Bu. Dong Zhuo is finally dead.
A cave is located northeast of the gate. Wu troops enter it and discover that it is a water pathway. They navigate it by boarding a boat (this pathway is initially the one southeast of Chai Sang in the original game). When they exit the pathway, they arrive at a castle (the Han Castle of the original DOAE2). They find many women but no men. They cannot get out because two women block the gate. They enter the palace. It turns out to be a secret entrance to another cave (originally in between the Han Castle and Ma Liang?s hut in Jing Zhou). When they exit the cave, they enter another one (the same as the one north of Chang Sha, where Yang You Bow is found). They find the Snake Spear. A staircase in the lower floor connects them to the original DOAE2?s Nan Castle. Wu troops enter the palace and they find themselves in Emperor Jing?s tomb. Yes, the dreaded tomb is back. But the good news is that game makers take away its tricks. Wu troops find the ultimate helmet ? Huo Shen Helmet (かしんのかぶと, defense point: 70) in the chest where the Blood Seal is supposed to be placed (Huo Shen Helmet only exists in the Wu Mod).
This sequence of caves has many glitches. The screen sometimes turns into complete darkness and I have been stuck several times. My level decreases from 60 to 27 at one point. I regain 15 of them back during a battle. I end up modifying the emulator in order to have my levels back (hey, if the computer plays dirty, I will do the same). I therefore advise players to use Suo Di once we pick up the Huo Shen Helmet. Wu troops immediately return to the cave?s very initial entrance, northeast of the gate where they defeat Dong Zhuo.
The Dong Zhuo and cave episodes are weird but the caves hide all the top weapons (Li Guang Bow, Zeng Zong Sabre, Qing Gang Sword, Thunder Ax, and Snake Spear). Wu troops can sell redundant weapons at the ?Han Castle?. The Heaven Sword, the Thin Axe, the Moon Sabre, the Yang You Bow, the Dragon Spear, and the Thunder Shield are available. Each costs 60000 gold pieces for purchase. Wu troops can buy the Great Armour for 65535 gold pieces. The Wind Helmet costs 50000 gold pieces.
The item shop in the ?Han Castle? sells the fire, water, boulder, and tactic scrolls. The fire and boulder scroll costs 50000 gold pieces each. The water scroll costs 65535 gold pieces while the tactic scroll costs 60000 gold pieces. I unload many scrolls (not very useful during fights) and unnecessary items in the armoury and the item shop. The fire and boulder scrolls inflict very little damage. Secret tactics from the tactic scroll rarely succeeds. The water scroll is the only valuable item because Shui Long is extremely powerful in this mod. With available spaces, I load up on gauntlets (duplication), strengthening everyone?s attack to 255. The original game?s Nan Castle has an item shop that sells Silver Stone, Gold Stone, Power Stone (60000 gold pieces, I believe), and the item invented by Zhou Y? (65535 gold pieces). Of course, I sell Zhou Y??s invention because it does not have any function. The Nan and Han Castles come back and become underground cities in this mod. This is kind of like the legendary Atlantis under the ocean.
Wu troops go to the billet in the ?Han Castle? and discover a secret comrade. His name is Wang Meng (strength: 130; intelligence: 250; equips sword, he has Pang Tong?s avatar) and he knows all the special tactics and arrays. He knows Huo Shen, Shui Long, Ji Shi, and Jin Xian too. I insert him and name him as the tactician (equip Treatise). I dump Gan Ning and put Lu Xun in battles because Gan Ning?s intelligence is too low late in the game.
After these episodes of Dong Zhuo and caves, Wu troops are loaded with top weapons, helmets, shields, and armours. Gauntlets, Speed Shoes, and Treatise should lead to excellent generals. Some of them have 255 intelligence (Zhou Y?, Lu Su, Wang Meng, Lu Xun). Some of them have 255 agility (Sun Quan, Zhou Y?, Lu Xun). We are now ready for the final showdown against Wei.
They go to Chen Cang again. Jia Chong, Cheng Ji, and Cheng Cui have taken control of it. Wu troops defeat them and recapture it. After a rest at the inn, they pass the Tie Men Mountains and reach a ferry dock. They board the ferry to Luo Yang (no battle at the pier). Remember to stock up Gold and Tactic Potions. Wu troops will need a lot of them in Luo Yang. The conquest has reached its climax!
Wu troops get off the ferry. Shops at the Yuan Castle are still vacant. No one is there except a ?Wang Meng?. They go to the small hut east of Yuan. Hu Hua offers them a free rest. They pass three citadels without a fight. They then reach Luo Yang, Wei?s final stronghold. Wu troops must fight five battles in a row. In the first battle, Zhang Hu (8400) leads Yue Lin (8600), X? Yi (8600), Dian Man (8800), and X? Zhi (8400). None of them knows tactics and Wu troops easily win. Remember not to use any tactics and potions. Even though Wu troops do not have any chance to rest and replenish between battles, this is not a good time to spend them. This Luo Yang war is far from over.
Si Ma Yi (9999) leads the second fight. Zhang He (9200), X? Huang (9400), Xia Hou Wei (8800), and Xia Hou Ba (9400) loyally fight along with him. This is a much more difficult battle. Even though the attacks of Zhang He and X? Huang are potent, Si Ma Yi remains to be the most dangerous. Wu troops should concentrate on him first. Do not use any tactics and pills. Wu generals must save them for subsequent fights.
Sun Quan, Zhou Y?, and others finally defeat Si Ma Yi. But the war is not over. Xia Hou Dun (9800) launches a third battle. Four excellent Wei officers follow him. They are Zhang Liao (9600), Pang De (9000), Guo Jia (9400), and Xun You (9200). Wu troops defeat them after a tough fight (take out Guo Jia and Xun You first in spite of punishing hits from the other three), thinking that they successfully conquer Wei. But Cao Cao himself emerges and leads the fourth consecutive battle. He (10000) leads X? Zhu (9800), Dian Wei (9600), Xun Y? (9600), and Si Ma Yi (9999). This is an extremely difficult fight. Si Ma Yi may form a Ba Gua. The worst matter is that Cao Cao launches arrow storms once every two rounds. Each Wu general loses approximately 4000 to 5000 soldiers. The arrow storms change to every round when three of Cao Cao?s generals (including Cao Cao himself) die!
I win on my third attempt. The key for a quick win in this fourth battle is to kill X? Zhu and Dian Wei with An Sha right at the beginning (Lu Xun and Zhou Y? cast them). Wu troops can then focus on Cao Cao and Si Ma Yi although the fight remains very difficult. We save SP and potions for this particular battle. Use An Sha, Ce Mian, revival tactics, and potions. Wu troops kill Cao Cao and Si Ma Yi in the midst of Cao Cao?s arrow storms; however, Wei has a final breath. Cao Cao?s son, Cao Pi (9999), leads the fifth consecutive battle. His generals Jia X? (9400), Cheng Y? (9000), Jiang Ji (8800), and Liu Ye (8600) launch an all-out effort in this fight. They are much easier than the previously battle, especially without the arrow storm. Since they have high intelligence, Wu troops need to successfully cast Ce Mian. Cao Pi eventually dies. Luo Yang finally belongs to Sun Jian after Wu generals fight hard. I cannot imagine what this final showdown is like in real life.
Wu generals enter Luo Yang. Save the game immediately, unless you want to fight these five battles again. Sun Quan and others rest at the inn because Sun Jian will not arrive until the next day. When they wake up from the inn, people tell Sun Quan that Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and Cheng Pu have arrived at the palace. Music of peace and unification sounds. Sun Quan, Zhou Y?, Lu Xun, L? Meng, Lu Su, Tai Shi Ci, and Wang Meng meet Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and Cheng Pu. Sun Jian thanks their hard fought conquest, especially at Luo Yang. The Sun family finally unifies China. After years of chaos, China can now have peace under Sun Jian and his family. Sun Jian leads us to tour China at the end.
Before I end this guide, I want to mention some secret generals in the Wei chapter. I do not find all of them. But I at least encounter two: Wang Yan Zhang, Han Qin Hu. Another person encounters Ye L? Chu Cai. Anyway, these secret people have approximately 30000 soldier counts. If our levels are lower than 60, these secret generals kill one Wu general in one strike. I defeat them by using Fu Sha and Xian Jing. When I reach higher levels, I can defeat them via regular attacks. Wu troops earn more than 10000 gold pieces after each victory; yet, they earn merely 3000 experience. In Chinese history, these generals actually live at least 600 years after the Three Kingdom Period. One more point, this mod does not have any secret bosses (unlike the Wei Mod).
I want to compliment the game makers for creating two new tunes. They make one for important battles (gates, citadels, castles, and the Shang Fang Valley) and they create a distinct tune for the final two Luo Yang fights. I enjoy the two new tunes a lot, drawing me into the fights much more than the original game and the Wei Mod. Since I spend a lot of time and energy in this game, particularly the final war, I hereby go off and have some rest at my ?inn.? Good luck in your game, especially the Luo Yang showdown. Please feel free to post your questions on the Lord Yuan Shu forum, especially if you are stuck. I shall try my best to answer.
End of the guide
Samuel
ParticipantI have reached this part. A man stands at a gate and there is another path heading to Shang Fang Valley. But how do you that Dong Zhou guy fight you? I do not play any tricks and he says a message. He never fights.
By the way, I have not met Si Ma Yi’s thunder tactic. Is this after Si Ma Yi’s thunder?
Samuel
ParticipantThe Japanese for Treatise is "もうとくしんしよ".
Samuel
Participantthechieftain said:
I can’t get past the fire battle when you use the cldbrst scroll, I can’t figure out which item it is and who needs to use it. can someone help me please?
I have compiled a list of commands, items, weapons, armoury, and tactics in Japanese and English.
The Cloud Burst is "りっこうてんしょ" in Japanese.
I would like to upload the file into this forum although I have not found the Japanese for Treatise. How do I do it?
Samuel
ParticipantChieftain, I think that you get two of Ling Cao. If you read my Shu chapter’s guide, you notice that Ling Cao has the same strength and intelligence statistics as the double that you mention. Unfortunately, I do not find Ling Cao very useful.
I have not reach the fire battle where the Cloud Burst is needed. But I agree with Taishi Ci, Zhou Yu has to use it. I cannot help you translate either, sorry. All I can say is that you pick up the Cloud Burst in the cave northeast of Tian Shui. The Cloud Burst is located in the chest at the left plateau.
Samuel
ParticipantI am in Wei; however, the game does not allow me to remove Lu Su. It forces me to stick with him until the end.
This Wei stage is extremely challenging. Enemy generals hit hard no matter how weak their strengths are. Besides, my troops’ soldier counts are much lower. I need a lot of time to train levels because this mod omits the secret training at Mian Zhu.
Sorry, the last chapter of my Wu mod guide may not be available shortly.
Samuel
ParticipantTacticians maintain their positions but utilizing them in battles is very risky. See my experience in the Cheng Du battle in this guide for the Shu section. Please feel free to give me feedbacks for my Wei and Wu mod guides. I have never written these before.
Chapter 5: Defeat Liu Bei and Shu
A messenger visits Sun Jian, saying Lu Su asks for a visit. Zhou Y? leaves the group in order to rebuild Jing Zhou, which has been torn by wars. Sun Jian asks Sun Ce and others to visit. Since Zhou Y? leaves, Wu needs to find a tactician to replace him (but they have already had two great ones: Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong).
Sun Ce and comrades go to Lu Su?s hut but a girl says that he has gone to Jiang Xia. But Wu generals cannot find Lu Su there. Instead, they encounter a drunkard. He promises to give them something if they defeat the bandits. Jiang Xia people cry for the same help. The bandits capture many women. Sun Ce then heads northwest to a quadrilateral forest. After they pass the forest, they meet the bandit leader. He is Gan Ning (4600), who used to serve Liu Biao. Sadly, he has fallen into a bandit. Sun Ce and comrades easily defeat him. Gan Ning (strength: 229; intelligence: 148, equips swords) finally joins Wu and he frees all women. A flame bow is available behind the gate. Gan Ning?s strength and decent intelligence make him a prominent feature in battles.
Wu troops return to Jiang Xia and meet the drunkard again. Who is he actually? He is Lu Su (strength: 165; intelligence: 229; equips bows). After he had recommended Zhou Y?, he himself joins. Sun Ce and others return to Jian Ye via an automatic screen. A soldier reports a visit from an injured general (I do not know his name). Sun Jian receives him. He says that Liu Bei has seized Shu after the Jing Zhou defeat. He has hidden a Shu map in a cave northwest of Jiang Xia. He passes a letter to Sun Jian, who then hands it to Sun Ce. Wu troops must show the letter to X? Sheng, who guards the Shu map.
Sun Ce uses the letter in front of X? Sheng in the cave. He moves away and they find the Shu map. Sun Ce talks to him again and he joins (strength: 193; intelligence: 181; equips axes). Everyone returns to Jian Ye and speak to Sun Jian. At this moment, a soldier reports a general requesting a visit. Sun Jian receives him. The general is Zhu Ran. He will be the spy for Wu. Everything is then set for the Shu conquest. Sun Jian leaves Sun Ce and Han Dang behind. They and Zhou Y? defend Jing Zhou. Lu Su and Cheng Pu lead the Wu force. They choose three more generals in the billet. Wu carries only five generals. I choose Gan Ning, Zhang Zhao, and L? Meng at this point. The sure candidate is L? Meng because his strength, intelligence, and speed are over 200. I use Zhang Zhao because of his intelligence of 240. He is my tactician instead of Lu Su. I prefer Gan Ning over Tai Shi Ci because Gan Ning is more intelligent. His strength is 7 points less than Tai Shi Ci but this is not a big deal. Unfortunately, I cannot drop Lu Su and Cheng Pu into the billet. Otherwise, I would replace Lu Su with Zhang Hong and Cheng Pu with Tai Shi Ci. By the way, Lu Su does not know Ce Fan but Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong do. I name Zhang Zhao as the tactician for now (240 intelligence and knows all special tactics up to this point).
Zhu Ran (strength: 212; intelligence: 178; equips swords) joins at the dock and heads to the billet. Wu troops encounter the Bai Di Castle (not sure about the name?s accuracy) once they get off the ferry. A battle starts immediately. Li Yan (5500) and Fu Tong (4900) defend it. Zhang Zhao?s tactics absolutely devastate them so the battle is easy. Wu troops enter Bai Di and hear news about Zhang Fei in Han Zhong. Go to the palace and speak to Liu Chan (I guess), who says that Liu Bei is in Cheng Du. A flame armour is available.
Wu troops invade Han Zhong first so they head northeast. The hut and Emperor Jing?s tomb are absent. This mod deletes them so Wu troops do not need to find the Blood Seal. They visit a small and weird castle northwest of where the hut would be. This is the Jia Meng Citadel. Wu troops enter without a fight. Two generals stand at the gate. The man dressing in white is Ling Cao. The one in blue is his son Ling Tong. Ling Cao (strength: 216; intelligence: 116; equips sabres) joins after a conversation but Ling Tong does not. He would like to test Wu troops? strength by asking them to invade the Yang Ping Citadel in the north. A revival potion is available.
Wu troops march north and attack the Yang Ping Citadel, where they fight Wu Lan (4500) and Lei Tong (4600). Neither of them can cast tactics. Wu troops easily conquer the Yang Ping Citadel with devastating strikes and tactics. A tactic potion is available. Meanwhile, they hear news about Zhang Fei and Guan Y? guarding Han Zhong. When they return to Jia Meng, they speak to Ling Tong (strength: 222; intelligence: 102; equips sabres) again. He joins the group. Ling Cao and Ling Tong are the first two Wu generals that equip sabres; however, I do not use them. Their intelligence values are low. Their strengths are good but Gan Ning, Tai Shi Ci, and Zhou Tai are stronger.
Lu Su, Cheng Pu, and others pass the old Shu mountain pathway east of Yang Ping Citadel. They then continue north and invade the Nan Zheng Citadel. This battle is significantly more difficult than Yang Ping. Liu Bei?s generals are Huang Zhong (5200), Yan Yan (4800), Wei Yan (5100), and Chen Shi (4600). None of them is intelligent enough to cast tactics but Huang Zhong, Yan Yan, and Wei Yan each has strength over 200. Their attacks can severely damage Wu generals. Focus on Huang Zhong and Wei Yan first, by employing regular attacks and boulder tactics. If it becomes absolutely necessary, Lu Su or Zhang Zhao can cast Fu Sha on one of them. In the meantime, throw a Tou Shi on Yan Yan occasionally. If Wu troops revive their soldier counts early (tactics or silver potions), they can win this fight without many difficulties.
A tent is hidden in Nan Zheng. Wu troops pick it up and head to the northernmost hut. A man stands there and his name appears to be Zhang Da. He promises to bribe a man named Fan Jiang in Han Zhong if Wu troops agree to pay him 10,000 gold pieces. Wu generals pay him and he did his work. Han Zhong Castle has been opened.
I train the Wu troops up to level 40 but Zhang Zhao does not learn Huo Shen. L? Meng, Cheng Pu, and Lu Su do. I therefore name Lu Su as tactician. I also drop Zhang Zhao to the billet and add Tai Shi Ci. Besides, Zhang Hong does not learn Huo Shen. Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong are not as good as I initially think. Their intelligence values, however, are still worth considering for the Wei chapter. They cannot function as tacticians but they may be great for combats.
Wu troops arrive at Han Zhong. Fan Jiang emerges and asks for the tribute. Suddenly, Zhang Fei discovers the plot and he kills Fan Jiang. Zhang Fei?s generals emerge and a hard battle commences. Zhang Fei (5600) leads Ma Chao (5400), Ma Dai (4700), Wu Yi (5000), and Fa Zheng (4800). Huo Shen is very helpful because it severely devastate Zhang Fei, Ma Chao, and Ma Dai. Meanwhile, be very careful with Fa Zheng. His intelligence is as high as 235 and his tactics can be lethal. But with Huo Shen, Wu troops kill Zhang Fei and Ma Chao in two rounds. Wu troops enter Han Zhong and find a white tiger ax. It is worth to replace Tai Shi Ci with Zhou Tai. Their strengths differ by only 10 points (Tai Shi Ci: 236; Zhou Tai: 226). Zhou Tai can equip the white tiger ax which has an attack value of 150. Since their strengths are very close, weapons become a priority in my lineup decisions.
When Wu troops leave Han Zhong, Pang Tong arrives. Liu Bei would like to meet Wu troops at Bai Di, according to him. Lu Su and others know that this is a trap; however, they have no choice but going. They talk to Pang Tong (stands at Bai Di?s gate) when they arrive. Pang Tong reveals the plot of killing Wu troops and challenges them. Pang Tong (6000) fights along with Wu Lan (4500) and Lei Tong (4600). Pang Tong is the most dangerous threat because his intelligence is 245. Focus on him while reducing the soldier counts of Wu Lan and Lei Tong by casting tactics (not Huo Shen but Hong Shui because Bai Di is near a river). Wu troops defeat Pang Tong and recapture Bai Di. Liu Chan has left. A general stands near the entrance. His name is Quan Cong (strength: 208; intelligence: 142; equips spears). He joins when Wu troops talk to him. I put him in the billet immediately.
Wu poses a serious problem for Liu Bei. People in Bai Di tell Wu troops about the water gate north of Bai Di. If Wu troops can get rid of the water, they can access a clear path towards Cheng Du. They head north to a hut, where they find a man. He looks like Zhu Ge Liang but dresses differently. Talk to him and he moves away, yielding a stair to a basement. Wu troops pick up a bronze key there. They then attack the gate north of the hut. Liu Bei?s generals Wu Yi (5000), Wu Ban (5400), and Chen Shi (4600) guard the gate. Wu troops have access to Huo Shen so this battle is very easy (I have reached level 41 with Ji Mian).
Lu Su and others enter the gate and find a locked hut. They open the door with the bronze key. They turn the handle in the hut and get rid of all the water. A dry land appears so they can attack Cheng Du via the Luo Feng Pass. But people at the gate say some bad fortunes about Luo Feng. . . Wu troops can pick up a Qing Long sabre and a steel helmet on the dry land, which appears after all the water disappear.
What bad fortunes lie in Luo Feng? Wu troops do not know so they proceed. But let L? Meng handle the tactician role for precautionary measures. Liu Bei troops ambushes at Luo Feng. It is Pang Tong (6000) leading the charge. Ma Chao (5400), Huang Zhong (5200), and Wei Yan (5100) follow. In the original game, Pang Tong dies here. He tries to turn the fortune in this mod. Wu troops can only inflict very weak damages while Pang Tong?s troops hurt everyone significantly. Suddenly, an arrow shoots Lu Su in the heart. Lu Su sadly dies. I do not think that Lu Su deserves to die so early. Zhou Y? is the one dying young. The mod can have Zhou Y? leading the force, dies at Luo Feng. Lu Su then succeeds him by rescuing from Jing Zhou.
Anyway, Wu troops can only retreat (automatic screens) to Bai Di. But Zhu Ge Liang (6100) is already there. He leads Ma Su (5400), Wang Ping (5500), Gao Xiang (5100), and Fa Zheng (4800). If L? Meng is the tactician, Wu troops can use strategies. But they are still much weaker than Zhu Ge Liang. Furthermore, Zhu Ge Liang knows Ce Mian.
Fire burns Zhu Ge Liang?s troops (and every round) just as Wu troops are close to annihilation. Zhou Y? leads reinforcements from Jing Zhou. Wu troops escape a scare and win the battle; however, I need to revive Gan Ning and Zhou Tai with revival potions. Zhu Ge Liang escapes but Wu can now regroup at Bai Di. The screen switches to the palace of Bai Di. Zhou Y?, Sun Ce, and Han Dang rejoin. Wu troops return to a seven men lineup. They lament Lu Su?s death. But Lu Su is actually alive in the billet! What happens? Lu Su miraculously survives the shot at Luo Feng (I do not use any special tricks such as the Zheng?s Letter and the 64 items. Lu Su just appears in the billet). Han Dang?s abilities are too low so I get rid of him. If you insert Lu Su into the lineup, be aware that you cannot take him out. The game considers him at Sun Jian?s tactician so he must stay in the lineup. Zhou Y?, Sun Ce, and Cheng Pu cannot be taken out either.
Pang Tong has blocked the Luo Feng Pass. Wu troops must take a long road by ferry. They head south, attack the Ba Castle after getting off the ferry. I assign Zhou Y? to be the tactician. Zhang Zhao reenters into the lineup because of his intelligence of 240. I use him during combats, enabling me to cast tactics and defend from enemies?. Chen Dao (5600), Zhang Yi (5100), and Fu Qian (4800) guard the Ba Castle. None of them casts tactics. Take out Chen Dao first. His soldier count and strength are the highest among the three. Wu troops enter Ba Castle after the victory. They pick up a tent. A man named Zhu Huan (strength: 209; intelligence: 158; equips spears) joins after talking to Wu troops.
People in Ba remind Wu troops to be very careful at the Ba Citadel, located west of the Ba Castle. They advise Sun Ce and others not to pursue, when enemies retreat from the Ba Citadel. Wu generals head west and attack the Ba Citadel. They encounter Zhu Ge Liang (6100), Xiang Chong (5000), and Ning Sui (4700). Zhu Ge Liang is obviously the most dangerous. He can cast Ce Mian and form the Ba Gua array. But they retreat after one round. Wu troops must wait for a woman entering from the opposite side before going in. They talk the woman, who reveals Zhu Ge Liang?s fire attack. They pick up an ice spear. When they exit, they fight Zhu Ge Liang again. If Wu troops do not wait for the woman, they will fall into the fire attack and lose soldiers every round. Regardless, this first battle against Zhu Ge Liang is quite difficult.
Wu troops march westward from the Ba Citadel. They arrive at a village called Chen Village. Everyone?s surname is Chen. They say that Jian Ning has been surrounded with arrows. Wu troops cannot enter. They march north to a mountain, picking up items (particularly the flame shield) and attack a gate north of the mountain. Liu Bei?s troops store Jian Ning?s food supplies here. If Wu generals conquer the gate, Jian Ning is forced to open its defense. Wu troops face Ma Su (4600) and Xiang Lang (4500). After the victory, Sun Ce and others enter the gate. They talk to Ma Su and he angrily vows revenge. He runs away immediately. A silver stone is available in this gate.
Five generals guard Jian Ning: Wang Ping (5500), Zhang Yi (5300), Zhang Yi (5100), Hu Du (5200), and Xiang Chong (5000). Two generals named Zhang Yi but they are two different people. The two ?Yi? are written differently in Chinese. None of them can cast tactics so Wu troops can concentrate on one general at a time. They can start with Wang Ping and move based on the strength indices of enemy generals. Tactics do not succeed for whatever reasons. But Wu troops should win if they revive their soldiers on time.
People in Jian Ning tell Wu troops news about the next castle, Yue Jin. In Shu, Yue Jin has the most solid defense. A general named Ding Feng (strength: 213; intelligence: 188; equips axes) joins in Jian Ning. Wu troops can pick up a flame armour. They head north to Yue Jin but simply cannot conquer it. They therefore retreat to a village southwest of Yue Jin. It is called the Zhu Ge village because everyone has the surname Zhu Ge. Pick up a barrage sword and equip it for all swords users. Sun Ce talks to a man in the hut located in between a billet and an inn. His name is Zhu Ge Jin. He wishes to serve Sun Jian but Liu Bei has taken his mother as hostage (this scene inappropriately portray a dirty picture of Liu Bei. He would have never done this in real history). Sun Ce and others have to pass the cave west of the Jiang village and rescue Zhu Ge Jin?s mother.
Ma Su (4600) stands in front of the hut. Pick up a white tiger ax before talking to him. He is shock that Wu troops find this place. He desperately challenges them but Wu generals easily take him out and rescue the man?s mother. The screen automatically returns to Zhu Ge Jin?s (strength: 130; intelligence: 225; equips spears) house. He says that Yue Jin generals will open the castle if Wu troops place him at the front of the line. Sun Ce does so at the billet. But this whole Zhu Ge Jin episode is ridiculous. In fact, Zhu Ge Jin is Zhu Ge Liang?s older brother. Zhu Ge Jin served Wu much earlier than Liu Bei found Zhu Ge Liang If Liu Bei seizes the mother of Zhu Ge Jin and Zhu Ge Liang, why would Zhu Ge Liang remain deeply loyal to him? Game makers cannot generate a sibling rivalry in such an atrocious manner. Logically, both Zhu Ge Jin and Zhu Ge Liang should join Wu if Liu Bei commits such atrocity. Zhu Ge Liang will be very helpful because Wu tacticians are rather weak. Even though I train them to level 42, no one (including Zhou Y? and Lu Su) learns Shui Long.
Well, I have vented my frustration on the story. I hereby return to the mod. Zhu Ge Jin lines up as the front man. Guards at Yue Jin open the gate. But Liu Bei?s troops quickly discover it and they fight. Enemy generals include Wu Yi (5000), Zhang Yi (5100, the second Zhang Yi from Jian Ning), Gao Xiang (4900), Fu Qian (4800), and Ning Sui (4700). Even with five generals, none of them can cast tactics. Wu generals can inflict severe damages with barrage swords (Gan Ning and L? Meng equip) and Huo Shen (Zhu Ge Jin and Lu Su cast). A man named Lu Xun (strength: 215; intelligence: 240, equips swords) joins upon talking to him. He appears earlier than I expect. Regardless, he is so strong that Wu troops must start him. He may be very useful all the way to the end of the game. I replace Zhang Zhao for him. A steel helmet and a tactic scroll are available in Yue Jin.
The Mian Zhu Citadel is north of Yue Jin but Wu troops can only enter from the back. They talk to an old man in a cave. He hides a TNT and Sun Ce finds it in the underground level. Wu generals agree to seize Mian Zhu by launching a fire attack using the TNT. They exit the cave and enter Mian Zhu from the back. Pick up a dragon armour first. Then, they use the TNT at the haystacks. A fire starts and generals appear. This mod does not allow us to train levels here. Instead of soldiers, women stand in the citadel begging Sun Ce for help. Liu Bei never does inhumane things like this (sigh!). Women do not fight when Wu troops talk to them. If we want to raise levels, we must do it in a hard way, spending tones of time.
Pang Tong (6000) leads Chen Dao (5600), Wei Yan (5100), Xiang Chong (5000), and Gao Xiang (4900) in defense. Focus on Pang Tong first. His intelligence is an enormous threat. Meanwhile, control Wei Yan with Huo Shen. His strength is dangerous. Fire burns Pang Tong?s generals every round so this battle is not too difficult. Wu troops pursue Liu Bei?s generals to the Luo Castle, north of Mian Zhu. Pang Tong (6000) fights with Wang Ping (5500), Zhang Yi (5300, the first Zhang Yi from Jian Ning), Hu Du (5200), and Ning Sui (4700). Wu troops should focus on Pang Tong again. Other generals are not very strong so Wu generals can take a few hits from them. In Luo Castle, people report on Zhang Fei?s presence. Wu troops can find a water scroll, a fire scroll, and a boulder scroll.
The march towards Cheng Du continues. They head southwest from Luo and arrive at Jin Yan Bridge. Zhang Fei (6900) stands at the end of the bridge and challenges the leading Wu general to a duel. I use Sun Ce (no chance of victory in real history). Since tactics are unavailable, remember to carry a lot of potions. Sun Ce kills Zhang Fei in this duel. Zhang Fei is dead along with Guan Y?
Finally, they meet Liu Bei (7000) himself at Cheng Du. Liu Bei vows to destroy Wu because it has killed his brothers Guan Y? and Zhang Fei. This is a difficult battle because Liu Bei leads a star studded force in defense. His generals include Ma Chao (6500), Huang Zhong (6400), Zhao Yun (6300), and Zhu Ge Liang (6100). Assuming that you know DOAE2, you should understand how strong these five people are. I start Sun Ce, Gan Ning, Lu Xun, L? Meng, and Zhou Y? for this final Shu showdown. Lu Xun can attempt a Huo Shen on Ma Chao but the biggest threat is Zhu Ge Liang. His Ba Gua array and Ce Mian are devastating. Liu Bei?s Ji Mian is tough too. In this battle, I use Lu Xun as the tactician. I put him in the fight and he dies. I then cannot use any tactics. No one carries a revival potion so I cannot resurrect him. I say this because this mod allows tactician to fight during battles. But you run an enormous risk of losing your tactician and your tactics. If this happens late in the game, you are in big trouble.
Cheng Du has a flame bow. Sun Ce and others rest in the inn because Sun Jian does not arrive until the next day. They talk to Sun Jian in the palace and Sun Jian sends them back to the inn. When they wake up, they talk to Sun Jian again. Wu has conquered Liu Bei and Shu but Cao Cao is the threat. He has conquered Han Zhong. Who will unify China, Sun Jian or Cao Cao?
Samuel
ParticipantLu Su dies at Luo Feng Pass. But he resurrects in the billet after Wu troops return to a seven men formation. Believe me, I do not use any tricks at all (no Zheng’s Letter, no 64 items). Lu Su just appears in the billet.
I, however, cannot take him out after I insert him in the lineup. Now I have to stick with Zhou Yu, Cheng Pu, Lu Su, and Sun Ce. I can only choose three more so I pick Gan Ning, Zhang Zhao, Lu Meng.
Zhu Ge Liang is a tough opponent in the Shu stage. He knows Ce Mian and Ba Gua.
Samuel
ParticipantI agree. Guan Yu can take Lu Bu’s position.
I am now at the Shu stage, invading Han Zhong. The Wu mod actually cuts off the whole Blood Seal episode. It omits Emperor Jing’s tomb and the small hut south of the tomb. This is quite an ULTIMATE HAPPINESS.
Samuel
ParticipantIndeed Zhang Lu, you do not have to implement the Yu Lin array because you increase 5-10 levels.
Here is my guide for the thrilling Jing Zhou chapter:
Chapter 4: The Battle for the Lord of Jing Zhou
Cao Cao has not given up Jing Zhou and Jiang Dong. He has seized Jian Ye, Jiang Xia, Yi Ling, and Jiang Ling. Sun Jian asks Zhou Y? to drive out Cao Cao?s troops and control Jing Zhou. Sun Ce begins at Fu Chun, paying 500 gold pieces to a man in the northeast of Fu Chun. Sun Ce and comrades learn that Cao Cao hides a Tally Order in front of the throne at Wu Cheng?s palace. They pick it up and head for Jian Ye. Zhang Liao guards Jian Ye and he does not fall into the Tally Order. He himself battles Wu troops. Zhang Liao is a formidable opponent (3000 soldiers) although he is alone. Attacks inflict little damages and tactics succeed occasionally. But Wu troops must be patient and reduce Zhang Liao?s soldier counts little by little. Eventually Zhang Liao succumbs to defeat. Wu troops recapture Jian Ye. L? Meng (strength: 216; intelligence: 227; equips swords) welcomes them in the castle. He joins the group after helping Sun Ce and company several times in the past.
Sun Ce continues the quest by heading southwest towards Jiang Xia. Instead of the Bo Wang Pass, the group can take a short cut via Wu Cheng and Lu Su?s hut. They enter Jiang Xia via the Tally Order. However, Cao Cao?s general Li Tong (3600) confiscates the plan. He challenges Sun Ce and the group. Li Tong is much weaker than Zhang Liao in terms of abilities. The battle should be easy if we have Luo Shi (level 24). We can decide who will be our tactician. Most people go with Zhou Y? because his intelligence value is the highest among all available Wu officers. But I make a strong case for L? Meng, whose intelligence value is only three points less than Zhou Y?. L? Meng is the only Wu general among the current ones that learns Ce Fan at level 23. Neither Zhou Y? nor Cheng Pu knows it. Even though Wu troops lose only 1 SP with L? Meng being the tactician, it is worth to have Ce Fan during battles. Besides, the tactician does not automatically fall into the end of the order during battles. We can utilize L? Meng?s strength and intelligence in any fights. Ce Fan really strengthens the protection (especially among generals with low intelligence) from enemies? tactics.
The battle for Jing Zhou really starts now. Sun Ce and his comrades board a ferry southwest of Jiang Xia. They head south to Yi Ling. Two of Cao Cao?s generals, X? Huang (2700) and Man Chong (2500), attack. X? Huang is a difficult opponent because his strength value is 227. His attacks create severe damage so the Wu troops must reduce his soldier counts fast. Meanwhile, Man Chong?s intelligence index is 203. Wu troops cannot ignore his tactics. The key is to defeat Man Chong while controlling X? Huang?s attacks. Wu troops enter Yi Ling after the victory.
In Yi Ling (pick up an iron shield), they hear that Cao Ren leads the final group of Cao Cao?s forces. Cao Ren settles in Jiang Ling (guess from the Katakana). The story, however, twists from the original at this point. A lake blocks the eastward path so Wu troops can only go south via a mountain path. Interestingly, a general blocks the path. He is Guan Y? and he challenges a Wu general to a duel. The first general in the lineup fights him so place Sun Ce in the front. Sun Ce?s 100 soldiers fight Guan Y??s 100 soldiers. Guan Y? retreats after one round, probably because he senses Wu troops? strength.
The path is cleared. Sun Ce and comrades go through it and head east. They pass a lake and see Jiang Ling southeast of the lake. Wu troops need to train levels before attacking Jiang Ling, since subsequent battles will be very difficult. I notice some generals? soldier counts are over 4000. Some of them are even over 5000. I recommend to train up to 26 in order to use Li Jian. In Jiang Ling, Wu troops fight Cao Ren (2800) and Niu Jin (2600). They are much easier than X? Huang and Man Chong. Neither Cao Ren nor Niu Jin can cast tactics. Their intelligence values are very low. Li Jian and Luo Shi are very useful.
Cao Ren and Niu Jin escape to a castle after the defeat. But Guan Y? and his troops (Guan Ping, Zhou Cang, Yi Ji, Fu Shi Ren) have seized it. They killed Cao Ren and Niu Jin. The battle of Jing Zhou is now between Sun Jian and Liu Bei, as Guan Y? controls the unidentified Castle. Wu troops enter Jiang Ling, discovering that the castle?s outlook is the same as Chang Sha from the original DOAE2. In this mod, Wu troops attack the four southern Jing castles in reverse order. The castles? names have changed too. I can only guess them because I cannot read Japanese.
Jiang Qin stands at the gate of Jiang Ling and he joins (strength: 217; intelligence: 132; equips bows). Sun Ce and company enter a house in the northwest. They talk to a man and he disappears. Then, they go to the house in the southeast and talk to Zhou Tai. He runs away, offering a funeral to his former lord. Then, he joins too (strength: 226; intelligence: 89, equips axes). Sun Ce and others do not need to obtain the Yang You Bow in this mod. The cave northwest of Jiang Ling is cut off too. Jiang Ling?s weapon shop sells both steel axes and steel bows. Buy a steel ax for Zhou Tai and a steel bow for Jiang Qin. I replace Han Dang with Jiang Qin, as well as Huang Gai with Zhou Tai. The abilities of Han Dang and Huang Gai are a lower than Jiang Qin and Zhou Tai. Besides, Jiang Qin and Zhou Tai can take advantage on the steel bow and ax. Wu troops head east and they see a village. A castle is located southwest of the village.
The castle is the Nan Castle (Wu Ling in the original DOAE2) for this mod. People in the village tell Sun Ce that Nan citizens hope to surrender to Sun Jian. But a moat surrounds Nan so Sun Ce cannot attack. How to seize Nan without hurting citizens? Sun Ce heads to Nan and picks up a steel spear (equip it for Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci by duplicating one) outside Nan. Then, they head southwest to the cape. They encounter a man (Han Zhong???), who promises to coax Nan?s guarding general leaving the castle. Han Zhong wants to serve Sun Jian and he agrees to coax Nan?s general out of the castle. Make sure to pick up a tactic potion and a steel shield in the cape. Equip the steel shield for everyone by making six duplicates.
Go to Nan and talk to the general, whose name is Mi Fang (4500). Mi Fang discovers the plot and he desperately battles Wu troops. Despite the fact that his soldier counts are high, his abilities are very weak. He does not even know any tactics. Wu troops should have no trouble taking him out. Subsequently, Mi Fang receives the Jin Xuan treatment. Wu troops enter Nan and upgrade their weapons. I anticipate the upcoming battles to be very difficult. Some of Liu Bei?s generals have soldier counts above 5000. Therefore, I train up several levels.
The castle northeast of Nan is apparently called Gong An (guess from Katakana and Chinese geography). Sun Ce, Zhou Y?, and others enter without a battle. An officer, Wang Fu, greets Wu troops and invites Zhou Y? for tea. In the palace, Wang Fu unveils his plan by attempting to murder Zhou Y?. But a man enters at this moment. His name is Fu Shi Ren, who kills Wang Fu with one blow. Sun Ce and everyone else rush in the palace, thinking that Fu Shi Ren tries to murder Zhou Y?. Fu Shi Ren surrenders to Wu and becomes Wu troops? backup. He sits on the throne and guards Gong An. But people in Gong An are worried. They tell Zhou Y? not to trust Fu Shi Ren entirely. An iron helmet is available in Gong An.
Wu troops encounters a general blocking the mountain pass north of Gong An. He is Zhou Cang (3000). Talk to him and he leads Liao Hua (2900) to fight Wu troops. They are not difficult because they cannot cast tactics. Luo Shi can easily beat them. The mountain pass is cleared. Everyone heads to the village north (pick up a tactic potion) of the pass. They hear news that Guan Y? leads Liu Bei?s army in Jing Zhou. Sun Ce and Zhou Y? will engage in intrigue battles for the rest of the way. I like the setup of this chapter so far. This mod vividly portrays the heated battle for Jing Zhou among Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and the Sun clan after Chi Bi. I enjoy this chapter very much, especially playing without knowing the story flow in advance.
Back to the Wu mod, a gate is located north of the village and Wu troops attack it. Liu Bei?s generals are Yi Ji (2600) and Zhao Lei (3300). The battle is more difficult than it appears. Yi Ji and Zhao Lei can cast Li Jian with high probability of success. Wu troops should play generals with high intelligence in order to reduce Li Jian?s damage. After the triumph, they head north and find a hut. L? Meng must be in the lineup so that the two guardians move away. They meet two people: Zhang Zhao and Zhang Hong. Both of them encourage Wu to take control of Jing Zhou.
The quest continues with an assault on Ba Qiu (another guess from the Katakana and Chinese geography). A gate is in front of it, southeast of Zhang Zhao?s hut. Zhao Lei (3300), Yi Ji (2600), and Guan Suo (2300) guard the gate. Make sure to play the intelligent generals (Zhou Y?, L? Meng, and Cheng Pu). Sun Ce and comrades charge the Ba Qiu Castle. They encounter Guan Y? (3600), Guan Ping (3400), Zhou Cang (3000), Wang Fu (3100), and Ma Liang (3300). Attacks from the Guans and Zhou Cang seriously hurt Wu troops. Zhou Y? and L? Meng respectively cast Ce Fan on Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci. Wu troops therefore completely shut down tactics from Wang Fu and Ma Liang. Focus on Guan Y? while intelligent generals defeat Guan Ping and Zhou Cang via Luo Shi, Fu Sha (level 29), and Li Jian. Wu troops eventually win Ba Qiu and find a steel shield.
Wu troops visit Zhang Zhao again, hoping that he and Zhang Hong join. But a soldier reports that Guan Y? has seized Gong An. He leads 700,000 Liu Bei troops in defense. Zhang Zhao tells Sun Ce and comrades to recapture Gong An first. When they arrive at Gong An, Guan Y? is not present. Instead, Zhang Fei (6000) and Feng Xi (4600) lead reinforcements. Even though they cannot cast tactics, their soldier counts and attack powers pose threats to Wu troops. Focus on Zhang Fei. Throw Li Jian or Fu Sha at him. If Wu troops manage to control Zhang Fei, they can pay attention to Feng Xi. This battle is easier than it appears. Wu troops defeat Zhang Fei, who flees to Yi Ling.
While Wu troops are on the way to Yi Ling, they find out that Liu Bei?s troops take over Jiang Ling as well. Sha Mo Ke (5800) and Ma Liang (3300) guard Jiang Ling. Use Li Jian on Sha Mo Ke and focus on Ma Liang. The battle should not be too difficult, since Sha Mo Ke easily falls into tactics. Sha Mo Ke flees to Yi Ling after the defeat.
Wu troops head to Yi Ling. They receive a big surprise: Liu Bei (7000) leads the battle and he launches a fire attack! Zhang Fei (6000), Feng Xi (4600), Sha Mo Ke (5800), and Huang Quan (5200) fight along. Even though the fire does not burn Wu troops every round, the battle is still more difficult than Fuji. Liu Bei and Huang Quan can cast Li Jian on Sun Ce and Tai Shi Ci. Their soldier counts are so high that Wu troops require a long time to reduce. The key is to cast Li Jian and Fu Sha on Zhang Fei, Feng Xi, and Sha Mo Ke. These three generals have low intelligence. They help Wu troops by striking one another. Fu Sha is powerful. It ties up a potent general for the rest of the battle as long as an enemy tactician does not use Jie Ce. I recommend Wu troops to reach level 31. Wu troops can restrict enemy?s Li Jian via Jie Ce. After a hard earned victory, Sun Jian drives out Liu Bei and becomes the undisputed ruler of Jing Zhou. Wu troops return to Zhang Zhao?s hut. But his followers tell Sun Ce that they have gone to Jian Ye. Everyone then returns to Jian Ye triumphantly.
As soon as they return, they discover that people have built Jian Ye into the biggest castle of Jiang Dong (The rebuilt Jian Ye has a steel armour and a dragon sword). The grandeur can compare Luo Yang. Zhu Zhi rejoins the group and he can enjoy his rewards in the billet. The group talks to Zhang Zhao (strength: 120; intelligence: 240; equips swords) and Zhang Hong (strength: 97; intelligence: 233; equips swords) at the palace. As promise, they join Sun Jian. If you enjoy generals with high intelligence, this is a marvelous opportunity. You have Cheng Pu, Zhang Zhao, Zhang Hong, and L? Meng at your disposal. But one mystery remains: why do Wu troops not need to take the Fan and Xiang Yang Castle? If they do not exist in the Wu mod, why does the map show them?
In spite of the questions about Fan and Xiang Yang, this chapter is the most thrilling thus far. Wu troops fight many tense battles (Zhang Liao at Jian Ye, Guan Y? at Ba Qiu, Liu Bei and Zhang Fei at Yi Ling) and seize Jing Zhou in a very strenuous way. Once again, the layout beautifully reflects the intense rivalry among Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Quan when they battled for Jing Zhou after Chi Bi.
Samuel
ParticipantThe other four mystics were Daoist practitioners during the Han Dynasty, Yu Ji, Ge Xuan, and Jie Yan (actually not Jie Tan) came from Wu of the Three Kingdom Period. Ji Zi Xun lived during the time of Eastern Han. Liu Gen was from late Western Han.
Daoists believe that people can train to become gods. They learn to make miraculous pills too. These five people practice these ideologies. They are not sages because they are not intellectuals.
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