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October 24, 2008 at 2:13 am #19516
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ParticipantDragonAtma said:
Judging by the data, Old Man Huang Zhong seems to be the best choice. Pack lots of Elixir Ds!
But he doesn’t learn tactics as an ally, right?
October 24, 2008 at 3:15 pm #19517DragonAtma
ModeratorAre you sure? I could’ve sworn he did…
If you’re correct, then the next best is likely Cao Ren.
October 24, 2008 at 3:30 pm #19518Lord Yuan Shu
KeymasterYikes. So we’re saying a Li Jian tactician is best even though they have Tong Xian? I don’t see how that’s possible. I would still think Jiang Wei An Sha-ing all the enemies and then using Power Pil’s is the only route to go. Plus you have Wan Fu to fully restore his 30000+ soldiers and the Halberd after the first Si Ma Yi first. The first Si Ma Yi fight shouldn’t be too bad after you An Sha Xu Zhu and Dian Wei. Of course you are basically praying he doesn’t cast Wan Fu but you would be with any strategy. I can’t imagine Zhu Ge Liang’s TP would last using Ce Mian, especially considering how weak Zhuge is. Maybe a Bei Ji-ed Zhuge with Power Pil’s, still, he is weak.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingOctober 24, 2008 at 7:01 pm #19519bennysan
ParticipantBeating Sima Yi with Jian Wei goes beyond luck and into the miracle category. Too many Ji Mains and Yi Xins to consistently attack him. A bei jied Zhu Ge Liang hits in the 1200s. Jian Wei hits in the 900s.
Can Cao Ren be used as a tactician? I
October 24, 2008 at 7:31 pm #19520thechieftain
Participant2 officers? zhao yun and jiang wei, i, sima will heal his rebel forces if u leave them alive, even if hes the one hurt. and why not try like huang zhong or zhuge, at least that way u could cancel his magic.
October 24, 2008 at 8:08 pm #19521bennysan
ParticipantOnly one officer. 2 officers was already done by Mr. lordyuanshu. I belive he used Zhu Ge Liang and Jian Wei, my first choice would have been Zhu Ge Liang and Zhao Yun followed by the combo that he used.
October 25, 2008 at 9:13 pm #19522Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantExpecting someone like Cao Ren to be able to pull Li Jian off on Sima Yi reliably, and long enough to take him down, seems even more incredible to me. And how on earth would you clear out his cronies?
Jiang Wei is the only approach I can imagine.
October 25, 2008 at 11:13 pm #19523DragonAtma
ModeratorBut Wei Xu, Y Jin, and Xu Zhu all have 84 or less Int. What happens if you Li Jian all three of them, then attack Cheng Yu and Sima Yi? With a little luck, not only will they be helping smack Sim Yi, but Sima Yi will actually Wan Fu one of them (thanks to their own self-hits) when his HP is low.
…now that I think about if, everyoine except Sima Yi has 148 or less in either Str or Int. Considering my planned lineup, you may have a problem when facing Jin Xuan’s final battle…
October 26, 2008 at 2:21 am #19524bennysan
ParticipantYes. Assuming that getting a decent Li Jain tactician is feasible (I haven’t tried yet), the theory is that I would Li Jain Xu Zhu and Dan Wei to help me chop down Sima Yi at a quicker rate to prevent Wan Fu. It would be nice if Sima Yi would bei ji one or both of these guys for me. They hit for about 1200 damage normally. Once Sima Yi is dead, continue using Li Jain for the victory.
There are 2 rebel forces in the battle as well. I’m not sure if this is typical, or caused by me only having one general.
This would not be effective in the next Sima Yi battle, but I will have the halberd by then. Maybe that will give me more options.
I’m convinced that Jian Wei alone can’t win, so, out of desperation, I’m looking for other options before I throw in the towell.
October 26, 2008 at 9:56 pm #19525Xian Zhu Xuande
ParticipantWell… it’s always worth trying.
But I think the Cheng Yu/Sima Yi combination is going to tear ass through a Li Jian strategy without a good healing solution.
October 27, 2008 at 6:46 pm #19526bennysan
ParticipantConfirmed. Cao Ren can’t be a tactician. I had no luck finding a Li Jian tactician with a decent amount of soldiers.
I’ve beaten all 3 Sima Yi battle using Jian Wei using "in battle" saves, but it could literally takes thousands of tries for the sequence to occur naturally.
I think that a max TP Zhu Ge Liang is the only non-miracle solution. Come out with a Bei Ji (8TP) followed by 4 Huo Shens (48TP). This should knock the Xu Zhi and Dian Wei below 10k soldiers. Mix in 9 Jin Xians as needed (36TP) and save 4 Ce Mians (68TP) and 5 power pills to finish off Sima Yi.
You may have to trade off a Ce Mian for 4 more Jin Xians depending on how often Sima Yi hits or misses with Hou Shen.
Unfortunately I didn’t plan ahead and only have 112TP. Does anyone have a maxTP game saved where Sima Yi has not been beaten yet? If so, I’d love to borrow it so i can try. If not, I guess I’ll start from scratch…
October 27, 2008 at 10:18 pm #19527Lord Yuan Shu
KeymasterWell that’s part of the problem, all the hard work and early leveling ruins your future TP. If you get someone else’s saved state then you are using a quest that wasn’t done with just one officer the entire time :) Those battles are far less difficult with an added 20-40 TP or however much we are missing at the end huohu huohu huohu
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingOctober 28, 2008 at 3:30 am #19528bennysan
ParticipantThis is true. I’ve never kept track of my TP before, but from what I’ve read, it should be possible to get max TP with one officer. I did level up excessively in hopes of getting Zhang Fei to defeat Hua Xoing and Lu Bu, but I ended up using tacticians to beat them both. Knowing this, I could stop leveling up when I quit gaining TP.
Just an experiment… I am going to fly through with 5 officers and get max TP and try to defeat Sima Yi with Zhu Ge Liang. If it works, I’ll know what I have to do to in my next attempt.
November 4, 2008 at 6:18 pm #19529bennysan
ParticipantI screwed myself twice trying to fly through the game getting max TP. I know now what I need to do.
I restarted the 1 officer challenge. I kept Lui Bei in my party until he learned Fu Bing at level 12 before I continued the story. Hua Xiong is giving me fits. I won the battle with Mi Zhi last time, but I don’t remember it being this difficult. This has got to be the toughest battle in the challenge…
November 4, 2008 at 9:08 pm #19530Lord Yuan Shu
Keymasterhaha grinding in the Yellow Turban area until you reach level 12? That’s insane!!!! huohu
I think the reason Hua Xiong was easy for Chen Deng (or Mi Zhe I forget which one I used) is that Li Su didn’t show up in my version.
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