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OKAY! Finished the yuan shao mod… a few thoughts…
1. Even for the last battles gate battles and castles, I just went all out without even buffing my guys, I mean, they were hitting me with Lian Huo for petes sake lol.
2. The 2nd to final battle I did the same thing as above.
3. The final battle was annoying simply because of the low damage done and they kept using Wan Fu, but didn't feel like I would actually have a major set back unless they got a lucky AnSha in.
4. Final death line was funny… swings his swords lol.
5. Maybe a little more on the dialogue changes? Even with all the portraits changes and color changes it felt pretty simliar to the original in terms of story, just a different character.
6. Somehow there has got to be an increased damage output by both sides or something to make it more "surprise" invoking. It kind of makes the game drag………………. if I'm just sitting there turn after turn waiting for something to happen on both sides.
IE: some guy uses rally and does a 10,000ish hit on someone. I think Guo Jia was hitting 36 on my 25,0000 hp guys, it was laughable lol.
7. I can tell this mod is dated due to the MASSIVE amounts of new things we can do with mods since about a month ago, hopefully you can pump out something with some more 'bite' to it with the Gongsun Zan mod coming up.
8. Some of the ideas from this mod were inspirational enough where I modified my own mod. Definately a good look into the pioneering of modern DOAE modding techniques, now to perfect it…
Quote:I can tell this mod is dated due to the MASSIVE amounts of new things we can do with mods since about a month agoYes other than loading portraits I've barely touched this mod in a year. Trying to decide whether to buff this one up or start over with Gongsun Zan.
I've been focused more on coming up with new ways to mod DoaE rather than actually making a mod the last month or two. Once I figure out all I want to figure out and DoaEditor gets some new enhancements I can either revisit the Yuan Shao mod or do a brand new Gongsun Zan mod.
Finally updated this mod. Changes:
– All IPS patch enhancements included, agility based attacks, 8 tactics, life, raise, etc…
– Difficulty increased across the board – not impossible but more challenging. Some battles will require leveling up some.
– New sprites and portraits
– Yuan Shao sits on the fancy chair with his sprite instead of Liu Bei's.
– Yan Liang and Wen Chou no longer leave your party and are billetable.
– Some text fixes.
– More generals with soldier growths. You may have some tough party decisions.
– Some minor twists and surprises – (Hey LYS, Yuan Shu makes another appearance in a famous role).
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Revenge eh? hehe, sounds sinister…. bwahahaha!
when i came back to this, the battery backed ram file got somehow switched with another one… so… i was at the end of the game with… weirdness.
currently going through ludmeister's older ver (pre agi-attacks and 8 tactics)… after finish that… need to decide between final lu bu or updated this one.
Quote:I can tell this mod is dated due to the MASSIVE amounts of new things we can do with mods since about a month agodated or not… a good mod is a good mod regardless :). much like you're not adding agi/8tactics to lu bu due to rebalancing it'd require etc hehehe.
what little bit i got to play of this before the battery ram goof, i was enjoying.
I am now busy finishing some game. Will get back to yours as soon as I end that game though.
DoaE gave birth to Huo Hu.
Quote:dated or not… a good mod is a good mod regardlessThis is no longer an issue. At least until more enhancements come… :-) The Yuan Shao mod now has all IPS patch enhancements included. And it is no longer powder puff easy. Some fights are going to be pretty hard.
I think that playing this mod will be my next project… I'm taking a break after releasing my DoaE mod and my MM3/4/5 mods. Thanks MiDKnighT, just downloaded it and looking forward to playing it!
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Some screenshots of some changes:
Liu Bei is finally kicked out of his chair:
Mountain climbing…
New portraits and sprites!
I ❤ 8 tactics:
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I've made it almost through chapter 4 (I'm about level 17), and am knocking on big bad Gongsun Zan's citadel in the east. Here's my initial thoughts on your mod:
1. This is my first time playing through a mod with a different cast of characters, and it is a lot of fun.
2. It was an absolute blast giving the treaty to Liu Bei and gaining his services for a while. And I almost didn't feel betrayed by him when I was ambushed north of Nan Yang… almost :huohu:
3. I actually like how many officers (especially yours) stay a bit behind the curve for a while, which amps the difficulty up. I may have to look into rebalancing my mod a bit this way. I must say… I was disappointed that I could not recruit Li Ru or Ji Ling :tear:
4. I was amazed how relevant Yan Liang and Wen Chou continue to be. I play your mod much differently than I play mine, because the only battle-changing tactic my strategist has seen is Doubt (and to a lesser extent, Restore… but warriors use healing tactics just as effectively due to their Strength). My party right now is
Lu Bu
Zhou Renmin <– (sp?)
Yan Liang
Wen Chou
Zhang He
Guo Tu <– tactician
Yuan Tan <– pack mule
5. The DoaE2 Damage algorithm made the initial chapter a bit tedious (officers with Daggers still hitting for 1 to 2 kills each turn).
6. Speaking of that, I was not expecting the first chapter to be as tough as it was… those Zhang brothers were beasts! :blackeye:
7. It appears that buying a bit of food is necessary to keep your soldiers supplied when I engage on grinding campaigns… not that this is a bad thing. It appears you've subtly raised the amount of gold received from engaging enemies. This actually gives a bit more complexity to the game, which is good for veterans :thumright:
8. I can tell I'll be using those Life/Raise tactics in future battles, because Gongsun Zan and the Chang Sha battle are both looking really mean.
Looking forward to getting more time to play after work tonite.
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Hi Lud,
Thanks for playing!
It seems you are missing a very important ally at this stage of the game –> Feng Ji. You can find him where Zhou Cang was standing in the original DoaE (ie…in Xu Zhe/Lu Bu's cave). Hopefully you didn't miss any tactics without him being with you.
As for the food thing, I think Yuan Tan has the highest troop count of anybody at this stage so he might be eating up all your food as a pack mule.
Quote:I can tell I'll be using those Life/Raise tactics in future battles, because Gongsun Zan and the Chang Sha battle are both looking really mean.Yes I designed both of those battles to be fairly challenging :twisted:
In case you missed it on the first page, I tried to loosly follow these for some of the chapters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Turban_Rebellion <– Chapter 1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_against_Dong_Zhuo <– Chapter 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yangcheng <– Chapter 3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jieqiao <– Chapter 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yijing <– Chapter 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Xiangyang_%28191%29 <– Chapter 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guandu <– Part of Chapter 8
Ah… yes you are right. I'm at work trying to remember my party, and now that you mention I do have Feng Ji in my army, and Yuan Tan is billeted (he got billeted after I was able to recruit Lu Bu). I cycle him in for Yan Liang (as Wen Chou has the Trident and Lu Bu has the Sabre) occasionally when I need an extra battle tactician.
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More thoughts as I head into chapter 6…
0. Having lots of fun. Zhang Yan just joined me and I must say I didn't see that coming (I didn't read the earlier posts, so as to not spoil the surprises.
1. I love the sprites and officer portraits. You've put a lot of hard work into that.
2. Two words. "Level 19", baby. Guard is my friend. And I am using it often. Once I attained Level 19, I took down Chang Sha rather handily, and then went back to pummel Gongsun Zan into the ground. Ju Shou is just the man for the job to make sure Guard is used before the enemies attack.
3. Sun Ce harassing me after the Jing Zhou campaign is kinda funny. He's quite dangerous… until…
4. Some of the Agility-gaining officers are overflowing 255 AGI. Here's the list so far as I can tell: Chunyu Qiong, Zhang He (I think?), Tian Feng, and most hilariously, Sun Ce himself. After the chapter switched to the Hanzhong campaign, Sun Ce decided to fight with me again, but he hadn't eaten his Wheaties that morning and someone poisoned his horses, because his AGI was a measly 6. :crown: Zhang Yan and company had lots of fun pounding him into submission in one turn.
5. Met more Heishin Bandits on the way to Hanzhong after I recruited Zhang Yan… and someone said they'd join me afterwards. Did I just get Zhang Yan again? A full army of Zhang Yan clones… that'd be something to see :huohu: I also like that I'm gaining food every time I fight them.
And Yuan Shao marches on…
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2 – yes – those 2 fights (GZ and Chang Sha) are nearly impossible without Guard.
4 and 5 are bugs that I shall fix lol. An army of Zhang Yans. :lol:
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