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Ah, ULTIMATE HAPPINESS!
Just beat Xu Shou after dying 3 times in a row. Finally went back to Nan Yang and got the Trident. Ji Ling rules using that ;)
…but now I have reached an impasse. I don’t have the gold needed for the Silver Key. What is Zhang Lu to do? The only thing I think I can possibly do is start conquering Jing Zhou, and likely get routed many times in the process :-(
Zhang Lu
They see me throwin' fireballs out of my sword, they runnin'.Nice to see you’re giving my buddy Ji Ling some burn. Pretty good general if you can overlook that horrid intelligence. I can see why you lost that battle; that Trident carried me through that enter Ji Zhou area.
I agree with that second Sima Yi battle. I’ve always felt that that was not a hard battle if you had enough TP for Ce Mian the entire battle. The only thing that might trouble you at this point is the last battle…
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingMy only option is to head to Jing Zhou. Now fighting Jin Xuan and Gong Zhi. Shouldn’t be too much trouble. I need gold to bring ultimate happiness to Zhao Yun! :-(
EDIT: Whipped Jin Xuan and Gong Zhi, and it was easier than I thought. I still don’t have enough gold, so I have no choice but to head for Chang Sha, and prepare for a whoopin’ by Huang Zhong and Wei Yan :(
Another EDIT: As expected, this first time was too rough. Huang Zhong and Wei Yan chopped my poor low-level generals in half repeatedly. Now what :cry:
I guess I’ll come back to this tomorrow. For now, I’ll just screw around with my other game, where I already beat it using a party of Taishi Ci, Dian Wei, Zhang Liao, Jiang Wei, and Zhuge Liang (with Pang Tong and Xun Huo backing up) :P
Zhang Lu
They see me throwin' fireballs out of my sword, they runnin'.Yeah, you?ll have to go into Jingzhou. Unless you got really spend-happy, you will probably have enough gold once you defeat the first castle there. Otherwise, you will have to defeat Han Xian, Huang Zhong, and Wei Yan?and that will be be quite a challenge without the experience you get fighting Yuan Shao?s officers. Good luck! Hopefully the money you have spent gives you some good equipment though, so you should be fine aside from that. :)
Edit: Chang Sha was too tough, eh? I guess if worst comes to worst, you can sell some equipment to make up the difference? I guess a lot depends on how far short you are. You can probably taken Chang Sha if you work at it, though. Having the Trident (which I completely forgot about?probably part of the reason why the area was so tough for me) and Ji Ling (which would have been awesome) will make a big difference.
Ah, I now stand atop the corpses of Sima Yi?s men, prepared to usher in a new dynasty! I got tired of having to walk back and fourth through the caves at the end of Wei because I wasn?t strong enough to double-up battles like Xun Yu and Sima Yi, but it wasn?t a big deal. Sima Yi gave me a tough battle at the end?mostly because the worm slipped in a Wan Fu (as shown in the screenshots)?but I have to say Wei wasn?t the worst part of this challenge.
What was? Wu. Dealing with the likes of Zhou Yu and Cheng Pu.
Once you get An Sha the rest of Wu isn?t that bad. Once you get Jiang Wei, moving through Wei isn?t too horrible. Although that Ru Nan battle with Sima Yi can be rough. He was happy to use Bei Ji not only on himself, but his men as well, and I must say this?they hit hard when you are on such a low level.
I thoroughly enjoyed myself!
You know what would be really messed up for the challenge?
Having to face Sima Shi and Sima Yi without a retreat in the end for the victory!
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Game Complete Save Information
Nestopia (Macintosh OS X) 1.2.9
Level: 39
Money: 26,020
Food: 642,221
Exp: 304,452
Save Location: Rebuilt Luo Yang
Zhang Bao
– Nu Long [240]
– Plate M
– Steel H
Zhao Yun
– Halberd [250]
– Plate M
– Steel H
Jiang Wei
– Wan Sheng [190]
– Plate M
– Steel H
Guan Xing
– Bo Ye [190]
– Plate M
– Steel H
Ma Chao
– Qing Guang [240]
– Plate M
– Steel H
Zhuge Liang
– Crossbow [130*2]
– Plate M
– Steel H
Where’d your money go Zhang Lu? lol
You go to that cave east of Nan Yang? There is some gold in there…I think you’re screwed at Chang Sha dude, I would try going after Yuan Tan.
He slipped in a Wan Fu and you STILL won? Impressive, I don’t know how you would have the TP. I agree with your battle assessment though.
1 – Po Yang. I went through this in the Japanese version just recently and it was no easier. In both versions I just felt like the time that I won (2 out of 20 or so) I got really lucky. I’ve never been able to recover from Ji Rou by Chen Pu. Zhang Zhao is another variable who can destroy your party if he chooses to Bei Ji himself or his friends and use other spells. Bu Xi sucks pretty much but he can Li Jian your stupid officers.
2 – Ru Nan. The Sima Yi battle. I think this is the hardest Sima Yi battle by far under these circumstances with how low-level the army is. Both times I’ve succeeded I went after Xu Zhu and Dian Wei first and then Sima Yi. I can never afford the TP to use Ce Mian from the beginning so I have to hope that Sima Yi doesn’t foil my plans while I’m taking the other two out.
3 – Hui Ji. Zhou Yu. Again, another battle that I just got lucky on and didn’t have to deal with Hong Shui or An Sha or Ji Mian from Kan Ze and Zhou Yu.
4 – Gate east of Bo Hai. I always have bad or no armor on at this point since I’m anal about not spending money until the end. Because of this I tend to die often here if the two dummy’s attack the same officer. Xu Shou always seems to be overly conservative for some reason.
5 – Ji Zhou. Bad armor and Lu Bu don’t mix well. Also I’ve never done this with Yuan Shu there and although he’s not much at this point in the game, I think he’d make the battle much harder.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingWell, I am on what poker players call "Tilt". I just fell again twice in a row to Han Xuan. At this point, I’m extremely frustrated. Unless I can pull a miracle out of my butt eventually, this will force me to start a new game. :mad:
Another idea popped into my mind. I can totally backtrack, go through every cave I passed up for gold, and pray that I can come up with enough.
*Gullwings back to Xu Zhou to begin backtracking*
Ugh…no success. My downfall is not being able to run away from random encounters, and having my generals constantly die in them. Then having to spend money on ressurects and inn stays…what a travesty :(
Welp, all the way back to level 11, before Lu Bu’s betrayal :cry:
Zhang Lu
They see me throwin' fireballs out of my sword, they runnin'.There are two treasures on the way that have over 1,000 each? Also, you can try restarting in either cave, because the gold totals of those treasures is variable. It can make a difference of nearly 1,000 gold.
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Wow? a difference of nearly 14,000 experience, and the game says I was a little over 4,000 away from level 40 (which would have put me outside range of 39, which seems to be the lowest possible level). The only real differences in what we fought was the battles with L? Bu and Pang Tong. Are those battles good for 14,000 experience? That seems much higher than I recall. Maybe the rebel forces I faced through the game ate hardy meals, and thus, were more nutritious?
The most interesting thing I can see is the fact that your MTP is 136. That is one point higher than what I usually wind up with, being about 135. I usually hire Zhuge Liang at level 17, and I suspect odds are highly in favor of the possibility that you hired him at level 17 as well (do you recall?) This time I actually managed to hire him at level 16 (with around 230 experience to spare) and I have always suspected that such an act would result in much higher experience, but I wound up with a very low total of 122! I noticed your Japanese game landed at 133. I suspect it is reasonable to assume that the TP increase on each level varies, which would indicate that the true potential points are higher than any of us have reached. This could be something that might be fun to play around with using saved states? just because Destiny of an Emperor is worthy of this sort of attention.
Going back to the last time I saved, which was at level 11, before I crossed into Yuan Shao’s territory. Got the trident now, and will get Ji Ling. Hopefully he’ll join for free this time around without me having to restart many times.
ZL’s Notes, Take Two
Tomorrow, I will try to get Ji Ling for free, restarting as many times as necessary. Then we will head north to fight Yuan Shao. This time, better money management is the key.
Zhang Lu
They see me throwin' fireballs out of my sword, they runnin'.Xian Zhu Xuande said:
There are two treasures on the way that have over 1,000 each? Also, you can try restarting in either cave, because the gold totals of those treasures is variable. It can make a difference of nearly 1,000 gold.
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Wow? a difference of nearly 14,000 experience, and the game says I was a little over 4,000 away from level 40 (which would have put me outside range of 39, which seems to be the lowest possible level). The only real differences in what we fought was the battles with L? Bu and Pang Tong. Are those battles good for 14,000 experience? That seems much higher than I recall. Maybe the rebel forces I faced through the game ate hardy meals, and thus, were more nutritious?
The most interesting thing I can see is the fact that your MTP is 136. That is one point higher than what I usually wind up with, being about 135. I usually hire Zhuge Liang at level 17, and I suspect odds are highly in favor of the possibility that you hired him at level 17 as well (do you recall?) This time I actually managed to hire him at level 16 (with around 230 experience to spare) and I have always suspected that such an act would result in much higher experience, but I wound up with a very low total of 122! I noticed your Japanese game landed at 133. I suspect it is reasonable to assume that the TP increase on each level varies, which would indicate that the true potential points are higher than any of us have reached. This could be something that might be fun to play around with using saved states? just because Destiny of an Emperor is worthy of this sort of attention.
Yeah that’s crazy. The Pang Tong battle shouldn’t be much more than a few thousand. I can’t imagine the rebel forces swayed the other 8000 though…You skipped the Pirates and Lu Meng right?
I have no idea what level I had Zhuge at. And yes, I’m beginning to think it is just random for TP.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackinglordyuanshu said:
He slipped in a Wan Fu and you STILL won? Impressive, I don’t know how you would have the TP. I agree with your battle assessment though.
Yep, and just barely, too. I was expecting to die, but the next Ce Mian I cast carried me through over half of Sima Yi?s life. I ran out right there at the end (13 TP is a vicious taunt when looking across the battlefield at Cheng Yu, who was kind enough not to collect any heads or, perhaps worse, Wan Fu himself). I ended the battle with 9 TP after a final heal.
lordyuanshu said:
1 – Po Yang. I went through this in the Japanese version just recently and it was no easier. In both versions I just felt like the time that I won (2 out of 20 or so) I got really lucky. I’ve never been able to recover from Ji Rou by Chen Pu. Zhang Zhao is another variable who can destroy your party if he chooses to Bei Ji himself or his friends and use other spells. Bu Xi sucks pretty much but he can Li Jian your stupid officers.
I think that battle might very well be harder than Zhou Yu. I?ll have to get a better feel for it the next time through, because I got pretty lucky on my first battle with him. The Cheng Pu battle, though?that was truly tough. After getting slaughtered a few times I just basically went back home and rethought my whole strategy. I was fortunate enough not to have to deal with Ji Rou in the following battle. If I was playing with the ability to hire a few officers, Wu is probably the place where I would consider doing it (and Zhou Yu would probably be one of the people I hired).
lordyuanshu said:
2 – Ru Nan. The Sima Yi battle. I think this is the hardest Sima Yi battle by far under these circumstances with how low-level the army is. Both times I’ve succeeded I went after Xu Zhu and Dian Wei first and then Sima Yi. I can never afford the TP to use Ce Mian from the beginning so I have to hope that Sima Yi doesn’t foil my plans while I’m taking the other two out.
That?s interesting. On my way through, in battles like this, I relied on Ce Mian to deal with the super strategist, and I most completely ignored the warriors. Jin Xian, after all, is a very cost-effective way to heal your party. Do you use Bei Ji on your warriors? That might be the difference. I cast it on the heavy hitters of my party, and that makes a big difference when fighting. Also, now that I consider it, that might also be the difference. My party has a higher attack power than yours because I am using that dolt Zhang Bao. This increases my fear of tactics, but gives me greater strength in battle.
lordyuanshu said:
3 – Hui Ji. Zhou Yu. Again, another battle that I just got lucky on and didn’t have to deal with Hong Shui or An Sha or Ji Mian from Kan Ze and Zhou Yu.
I fully expect to be resetting my game a few times when I return to this battle.
One Hong Shui there must be horrible. Two must be a certain game over.
lordyuanshu said:
4 – Gate east of Bo Hai. I always have bad or no armor on at this point since I’m anal about not spending money until the end. Because of this I tend to die often here if the two dummy’s attack the same officer. Xu Shou always seems to be overly conservative for some reason.
I always come here with some armor upgrades on my weaker warriors, and I always have at least two Resurrects on hand. The armor upgrades give someone like Zhao Yun the ability to take a hit or two, and the Resurrects are almost always used well before I reach Yuan Shao.
lordyuanshu said:
5 – Ji Zhou. Bad armor and Lu Bu don’t mix well. Also I’ve never done this with Yuan Shu there and although he’s not much at this point in the game, I think he’d make the battle much harder.
Probably a similar situation for me, relative to my previous quote. I can only imagine how hard these battles must have been when you are not allowing yourself to shop! Some armor on my weak guys helps to defeat Lu Bu with no casualties (though sometimes a death or two happens simply because someone attacks the same person L? Bu did). This combined with a multi-target fire attack, and a wonderful all-party-heal, actually made this battle easier for me than Xu Shou. And yeah, I bet Yuan Shu would indeed complicate that battle quite a bit.
lordyuanshu said:
eah that’s crazy. The Pang Tong battle shouldn’t be much more than a few thousand. I can’t imagine the rebel forces swayed the other 8000 though…You skipped the Pirates and Lu Meng right?
I have no idea what level I had Zhuge at. And yes, I’m beginning to think it is just random for TP.
I?m pretty sure it is the rebels, actually. When I was writing my walkthrough I was logging information on experience gains after battles, and I found that number-shifts in the rebel forces actually caused quite a bit of variation in a battle?s experience gain. I didn?t fight L? Meng or the pirates.
To make things even more interesting, a look at my old experience notes show that my battles with Pang Tong (who has a totally random number of rebels) averaged around 930 exp and my battles with L? Bu (I think his rebel total is set) averaged 2,500. That means there is an experience shift between our games of roughly 11,500, and no obvious explanation for the difference! The Pirate battle averages around 15,000 experience in and of itself (which also tells us that if you do that battle, your hopes of hitting level 39 are most likely shot up).
Verified that the Rebel Force soldiers for major battles do, indeed, change randomly.
Verified that treasure contents also change randomly. The value is determined when you open the chest.
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