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April 15, 2006 at 1:43 am #15450CommieCatGirlParticipant
Enlisting seems to be the only way to improve your troop/health/energy count, but I have little idea on how to do the officers. Earlier I was attacked by Xiahou Dun and several other Cao officers with a city that was guarded only by Guan, but I managed to beat their commander and win. Then the next turn, I had all those Cao officers on my side. Also, sometimes officers just spontaneously join your force, I think it’s a good idea to just keep saying Yes whenever the yes/no counter pops up on the world map.
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April 15, 2006 at 2:15 am #15451Lord Yuan ShuKeymasterDamn…didnt even realize you could be anyone other than Liu Bei. Yuan Shu’s forces blow. I think I’m going to be Cao Cao just to see if I can do anything.
I’m curious, every time I do a policy like build economy or farm, my entire turn is finished. Am I accidentally doing that or do you only get one move per town?
By the way
I’m pretty sure about the war ability and am sort of guessing on intelligence. This is Guan Yu obviously, as you see he has a high War ability. Zhang Fei has a 14 and Lu Bu a 15, so I assume that’s the highest. In comparison, Zhuge Liang has a 14 for the three in the lower-right so that doesn’t help to figure anything out. Maybe they’re Political and then Charm? If only we could get someone who comprehends Japanese to just tell us these basic things….
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingApril 15, 2006 at 6:27 pm #15452CommieCatGirlParticipantI think you have the right about with the War stat, but I’m unsure about it in the long run. Also, for ending your turn, when you manually choose to do something it takes 2 action points but when you go to the Officer advice it takes 1 action point but you can’t choose anything else but Ask officer again with only 1 action point.
I was thinking about the four officers that appear in the intro movie. Do you think they are (clockwise) Liu Bei, Pang Tong, Ma Chao, and Zhuge Liang?
You have to remember, though; the very thing that makes you a nerd is that your enthusiasms are totally unrelatable and non-marketable to most of the world. For example, anime and celibacy. - Seanbaby
April 16, 2006 at 6:12 pm #15453Taishi CiParticipantWell it seems between you two we’ve figured out the essentials. I’ll get around to playing this but I need to finish my second run-through of DOAE3 Genesis, and then complete my DOAE2 low-level game. Besides, strategery games were never my strong point.
April 16, 2006 at 10:30 pm #15454Lord Yuan ShuKeymasterYa I’m definitely not an expert on these types of games either. It seems like a hybrid between Dynasty Tactics and Romance of the Three Kingdoms. The heavy dialog throughout the game kind of limits it, at least while it’s in Japanese.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingApril 17, 2006 at 2:29 am #15455Perhong_AngtongParticipantI noticed something curious when starting to try and play SNES version of DOAE3, most of the generals just look plain angry. Also, the lines of soldiers you can see when choosing a unit looks like Ogre Battle…
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April 17, 2006 at 2:29 am #15456CommieCatGirlParticipantI’m starting to get the hang of the game. Playing as Cao Cao in the first scenario, with the second tile selected, I’ve managed to take five or six cities to the east of Chen Liu (or whatever), I managed to defeat Lu Bu (though he still appears in the dialog box, so he might be an officer under someone else), and I sandwiched Liu Bei inbetween Yuan Shao and I. The AI seems kinda loopy, there were several times where I had an unoccupied city exposed and they could’ve easily ruined my shit but they did nothing.
Anyways, today I noticed something with the action point bar. Every officer in a battle starts with three action points (one of Cao Cao’s officers starts with four), but at the start of your turn you’ll notice that the first officer you select usually does more. I found out that at the beginning of every turn you get about five or six "bonus" action points that you can use freely, but it spends the officers initial amount of action points first then uses the bonus ones.
You have to remember, though; the very thing that makes you a nerd is that your enthusiasms are totally unrelatable and non-marketable to most of the world. For example, anime and celibacy. - Seanbaby
April 17, 2006 at 3:20 am #15457Lord Yuan ShuKeymasterYeah I’ve been doing okay will Cao Cao too. Unfortunately every time I try to be someone else I just don’t seem to have enough good generals to expand my empire. I seem to have more success on the exteriors of China, taking out Liu Biao and Sun Jian, as shit just gets too cluttered in the center and it’s impossible to guard all fronts.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingApril 17, 2006 at 12:49 pm #15458CommieCatGirlParticipantYeah, Cao Cao seems to be the best with his surplus of great generals. I defeated Liu Biao, Sun Jian, and Lu Bu, while Yuan Shao and Liu Bei fought for a bit before Liu Bei lost(some Liu Bei officers defected to my force), My only problem is that I only attack with Cao Cao’s main force also, if you have a city with nobody in it for a long time it will fall out of your control (this happened to me and Cao Cao was kinda isolated from his empire after defearing Liu Biao). Another thing, when you get ten cities the music changes and you might be able to ascend to the first level of emperor.
I noticed what one of the stats are for, in the stats menu to the left of the WAR is the officer’s troop count. In battle it’s the x/10 thing, you’ll notice that when that numbers higher, there are more troops that appear on your side when you directly attack someone, also thay you lose them equal to the amount you see die in the battle. I duscovered this when Yan Liang took attacks from Sima Yi and Cao Pi and managed to kill them both while they where at full health, so apparently in battle you want to keep the x/10 troop thing and the officer health bar above Zero (recruiting seems to restore 1-3 troops to everyone in a city, but doesn’t effect officer health)
You have to remember, though; the very thing that makes you a nerd is that your enthusiasms are totally unrelatable and non-marketable to most of the world. For example, anime and celibacy. - Seanbaby
April 18, 2006 at 3:17 am #15459Lord Yuan ShuKeymasterGood news! Finally someone at the-scholars helped me…
When choosing difficulty (yes, those three options are difficulty) the far right is hard, the middle is normal while the left is probably easy.
Thank Niahak
http://the-scholars.com/viewtopic.php?p=336973#336973
-It’s impossible to hold up with Yuan Shu. He starts off with two cities but the one he isn’t in (just to the northwest of where he starts) is guarded by two generals and is right between Lu Bu and Cao Cao. Moved away from there after the first turn so I didn’t have to subject myself to an inevitable defeat.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingApril 18, 2006 at 3:20 am #15460Taishi CiParticipantThanks for the update. Now go play as Yuan Shu on Hard.
April 18, 2006 at 3:26 am #15461Lord Yuan ShuKeymasterNow I’m going to the store. When I return I will.
God I love the floating background in the menu on DoaE 3. It’s like playing Vandal Hearts all over again.
The music too, for some reason, is entertaining.
I just PMed that Niahak user who knew about the information above. Anyway I attached a .jpg of the status screen for one of Yuan Shu’s generals so that could be very good if he knew that. Obviously the dialog we’ll never be able to figure out though.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingApril 18, 2006 at 6:23 am #15462Lord Yuan ShuKeymasterYuan Shu is impossible, on easy. Even after I moved all my armies to Yuan Shu’s initial city I still couldn’t overcome Sun Jian. You can’t duel with Yuan Shu or his generals because they all blow.
That being said, Yuan Shu has far and away the worst generals. His best generals are equal to Cao Cao and Sun Jian’s (or Sun Ce’s) worst.
Yuan Shao’s also seem to be pretty weak, and Yuan Shao himself is very incapable.
Liu Bei has a solid force but only five generals (I think the fourth one is Zhou Cang).
Liu Biao has an underrated force with several quality generals. Also he is isolated and no one is within 1 space of him for a while (although this changes).
Lu Bu is probably equal to Yuan Shao in overall generals, but still lacking when compared to Cao Cao or Sun Jian.
Recently I started up one with Liu Bei and took out Yuan Shao pretty handily. You can do some good things with Mr. Guan Yu. I’m curious though commie, do you know how the duel thing works? Sometimes it allows it and sometimes it doesn’t. I’m changing my units all the time now, that’s very handy that you can do that at any time.
This game is strange. Can enemies go into exile? Sun Ce was defeated in the left part of the map and came back in the southeast all of a sudden. Also, northeast of Liu Bei and Yuan Shao’s starting points was another ruler that just popped up. Is this Gongsun Du or something? Gr….so much I don’t understand with this whole language barrier situation.
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Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingApril 18, 2006 at 1:17 pm #15463CommieCatGirlParticipantI think that weaker fighting officers or those with lots of troops tend to avoid doing duels. Yeah, those new rulers pop out of nowhere like daisies, I was totally about to take Yuan Shao out when four or five different rulers appear all along my cities in the south.
You have to remember, though; the very thing that makes you a nerd is that your enthusiasms are totally unrelatable and non-marketable to most of the world. For example, anime and celibacy. - Seanbaby
April 19, 2006 at 1:25 am #15464Taishi CiParticipantPlaying through this, I notice sometimes the screen will move to a city and play an encouraging sound, or a discouraging one. I’m guessing these are random effects, like good harvest or locusts or something.
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