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September 7, 2013 at 3:37 am #39422Shingen01ParticipantQuote:Yeah, I just hope he wasn't too overpowered.
Yeah… Zhang Liao was the general I never contemplated removing. I almost took Lu Bu out of the battle formation (with a 7 man party) at the end, but I figured that would just be wrong (and he would kill me for trying LOL).
September 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm #39423sonic.penguinModeratorQuote:I did encounter 1 glitch. I wound up after buying/selling equipment (In Cheng Du) with 400ish/800ish TP. I loaded a savestate and this did not reoccur.I have had this happen sometimes too. It is random and we have no idea what causes it.
Quote:Yeah… Zhang Liao was the general I never contemplated removing. I almost took Lu Bu out of the battle formation (with a 7 man party) at the end, but I figured that would just be wrong (and he would kill me for trying LOL).In that case, maybe I should lower his troop count?
Quote:“If I go with you, perhaps I can end the pain of the people that you cause.”It might be a little clearer if it was something like, “If I go with you, perhaps I can end the pain that you cause the people.”
You mean LB? He was a recent addition in version 3.0. I could make that change if it makes more sense
Quote:Cheng Du was INSANE!!!! The head strategist murdered me with Barrage…Yeah, take him out FAST or else…
September 7, 2013 at 7:46 pm #39424Shingen01ParticipantChapter 7 – Invasion of Wu
The invasion makes total sense now! Wei is in shambles which allows us to tackle the immediate threat of Wu.
During this chapter I was able to outfit my entire party with steeds (timing seems about right for that).
Really cool dealings with the Wu cave! It’s totally optional to do at that point so you can take out Zhang Zhao first (or do the cave first to make Zhang Zhao easier). I like the flexibility and the time it saves traveling from point A to point B.
Sun Ce was a THORN (He should be I think). I wound up killing everyone else first (ran out of TP… Beavis would be sad…) and focused/did tactic strikes when I could. I eventually won through attrition.
The new rock formations were awesome! I didn’t know when/where the next battles would happen! The maze wasn’t controller throwing annoying and added a dimension that was not there in the original.
The War Spirits (the ones that need to be defeated to get the new toy) were tough. I got my ass kicked until I reproached them when the team was level 46 (Evade! Wooohooo!)
At this point I went back to Jing Zhou and took out the Pang Tong replacement. He is wicked good and took LB’s spot (don’t worry not the Lu Bu LB). I’ll call him DD and he lasted for quite a while.
Boss Battle – First fight wasn’t too tough, but I got ambushed and ran away during the second. Came back and slaughtered them.
I recruited Zhang Zhao in a random encounter. If I didn’t have DD he would have made the team. At this point (Lu Bu, Zhang Liao, Guan Yu, DD, Yang Hu).
September 7, 2013 at 8:00 pm #39425sonic.penguinModeratorQuote:The invasion makes total sense now! Wei is in shambles which allows us to tackle the immediate threat of Wu.During this chapter I was able to outfit my entire party with steeds (timing seems about right for that).
Yeah, I felt this was a good time to have players at least get a chance to fight Cao Cao himself as I felt fighting him sooner would just be too tough and getting a full party worth of steeds just made the game too easy.
Quote:Really cool dealings with the Wu cave! It’s totally optional to do at that point so you can take out Zhang Zhao first (or do the cave first to make Zhang Zhao easier). I like the flexibility and the time it saves traveling from point A to point B.That was something I made when map editing first came out. I was just annoyed with the long trips back and forth and it was before TP regeneration which has been an awesome addition to the game and makes it a LOT more RPG'ish rather than winning by attrition. It's the whole reason I decided to upgrade ROLB to version 3.0. Kudo's to MiDKnighT on that one. The Wu Maze was the same thing, everyone knew their way through without any challenge, so, surprise :D
Quote:I recruited Zhang Zhao in a random encounter. If I didn’t have DD he would have made the team. At this point (Lu Bu, Zhang Liao, Guan Yu, DD, Yang Hu).Hmm, I didn't think he was recruitable, but meh, as long as it's not gamebreaking >_>
EDIT: Why by golly I did leave him recruitable, but his troop count should be pretty low.
September 7, 2013 at 9:40 pm #39426Shingen01ParticipantQuote:In that case, maybe I should lower his troop count?A lower troop count might work. Many of my party decisions were based on troop size to a point (Huang Zhong got dumped in favor of Wei Yan eventually). Zhang Liao is one of the 3 Zhangs though… so who knows…. Maybe you can have him leave when Guan Yu and Zhang Fei left in the original (That would just be mean though) hehe… I'm a Zhang Liao fan so I don't mind him sticking around.
Quote:You mean LB? He was a recent addition in version 3.0. I could make that change if it makes more senseYup… LB. He was an awesome addition. Stats weren't broken, but he was a jack of all trades that had some cool tactics. His quote could be interpreted as Lu Bu causing people or as causing pain. I know what you mean though, and it is a shoe peddling country bumpkin that's saying it…. LOL!
Quote:Hmm, I didn't think he was recruitable, but meh, as long as it's not gamebreaking >_>Yeah… He's not broken or anything. If a player doesn't pick up DD he's a good substitute. He ends up with 33727 troops at level 52 so he is serviceable.
I'll post up the final Chapter Experience in a bit. That Grotto was a MEAN SOB!
September 7, 2013 at 10:58 pm #39427sonic.penguinModeratorQuote:A lower troop count might work. Many of my party decisions were based on troop size to a point (Huang Zhong got dumped in favor of Wei Yan eventually). Zhang Liao is one of the 3 Zhangs though… so who knows…. Maybe you can have him leave when Guan Yu and Zhang Fei left in the original (That would just be mean though) hehe… I'm a Zhang Liao fan so I don't mind him sticking around.The problem is lowering it enough where he's not useless because he is kind of a master of fighting and tactics and if I lower his troop count it will seriously hamper his damage output
Quote:Yup… LB. He was an awesome addition. Stats weren't broken, but he was a jack of all trades that had some cool tactics. His quote could be interpreted as Lu Bu causing people or as causing pain. I know what you mean though, and it is a shoe peddling country bumpkin that's saying it…. LOL!Heh, you'd like my Flames of Wu Mod then :P
Quote:That Grotto was a MEAN SOB!That's a bonus battle taken from my DOAE mod Rise of Ieyasu. In that mod you can use Rifle/Wind Tactics instead of Fire/Lightning, but I still thought the lightning was a nice touch in comparison with the Water.
September 7, 2013 at 11:42 pm #39428sonic.penguinModeratorNew version uploaded with:
* Ding Yuan removal bug fixed which caused the game to become unplayable at after chapter 5.
* Multiple dialogue fixes
September 8, 2013 at 7:11 pm #39429Shingen01ParticipantChapter 8 – Endgame
It was extremely easy to level up in this area. I reached 50 (and 52 with the side trips) when trying to raise money for Platemail. I don’t see anything wrong with this, as you have a few curveball encounters in this stage (Tacticians with Thwart, Raise, CHAOS uggghhhh…).
Lu LingQi didn’t make the cut. I loved her troop numbers though, so she almost made it. At this time I was emphasizing high INT so I could survive some of those nasty tacticians out there.
Ru Nan – Halberds seem kind of cheap for what they do. I noticed that you have them show up at the Item Shop in Jin (and in treasure chests as well). If you remove them from Runan, some of the 5 swords will remain valuable up to Jin (I remember discarding 1 of the swords found in the Wei cave since at that point I bought everyone Halberds).
Guo Huai portrait looks bad-ass!
Jin – This was the toughest battle for me in the game (I handled the Grotto later with people that can handle it hehe). Chaos was BRUTAL!!! The only thing that saved me after my third attempt was that the enemy attacked each other instead of casting Raise (Deng Ai did this). You might have a bug that has the computer attack instead of Raise.
After the battle I recruited Zhong Hui, Deng Ai, and Du Yu (who is a BEAST) in random encounters. This made the Grotto possible (with Du Yu’s Thwart).
Grotto – You did a good job making Lu BU relevant in this one. I wrecked everyone else with Thwart and power pills but ran out of juice. The only way I took out Honda was with an epic duel.
Gates 1 + 2 were crushed with Chaos.
Thwart was huge for our buddy in Gate 3. I like the full circle effect of your story! Lu Bu must atone hehe… Stabby stab!
Luo Yang Battle Part 1 was challenging. Same issue from Jin though (Cept this time it was Quan).
Part 2 – Loved the Godfather like quote LOL! Ran like a bitch and got mauled (I was out of TP). Came back and whooped ass.
Surprise – That caught me with my pants down. 2nd time I wrecked it since I prepared. The Sima Bros and Xu Shu were easy to take with their low AP. I assume you might have done this intentionally for a whack-a-mole approach (Take out easy guys go after the other two. When easy guys get raised whack them down again and go after the original two again).
Final Party was Lu Bu, Zhang Liao, Du Yu, Yang Hu, Deng Ai (Almost cut Lu Bu by adding Zhong Hui and somebody else but felt that would be wrong LOL)
Possible Bug – Yang Hu shows up as a random encounter in this area.
Awesome job with this Mod! I can give it another run in a week or two to check out your recent changes if you like. I’ll probably start your Wu Mod next so I can take notes and post observations for you. Sun Ce/Taishi Ci/Gan Ning should help my Lu Bu syndrome.
September 8, 2013 at 7:13 pm #39430Shingen01ParticipantQuote:The problem is lowering it enough where he's not useless because he is kind of a master of fighting and tactics and if I lower his troop count it will seriously hamper his damage outputNothing wrong with keeping Zhang Liao bad-ass!
September 8, 2013 at 7:46 pm #39431sonic.penguinModeratorQuote:Lu LingQi didn’t make the cut. I loved her troop numbers though, so she almost made it. At this time I was emphasizing high INT so I could survive some of those nasty tacticians out there.This was my complaint to MiDKnighT with a newer version of DOAE patching which isn't used in ROLB, is that something needs to be given to the stupid people to make them more worth using end-game, such as a higher base AC.
Quote:Ru Nan – Halberds seem kind of cheap for what they do. I noticed that you have them show up at the Item Shop in Jin (and in treasure chests as well). If you remove them from Runan, some of the 5 swords will remain valuable up to Jin (I remember discarding 1 of the swords found in the Wei cave since at that point I bought everyone Halberds).Actually, I thought about discarding the ability to buy Halberds in that last town. Originally I implemented that into ROLB 1.0 and it worked great, but ever since version 3, they are probably WAY overpowered. Will make a change on that.
Quote:Guo Huai portrait looks bad-ass!Thanks, I spent a good part of last year making lots of new in-game portraits from scratch.
Quote:Jin – This was the toughest battle for me in the game (I handled the Grotto later with people that can handle it hehe). Chaos was BRUTAL!!! The only thing that saved me after my third attempt was that the enemy attacked each other instead of casting Raise (Deng Ai did this).Luo Yang Battle Part 1 was challenging. Same issue from Jin though (Cept this time it was Quan).
I'll mention this one to MiDKnighT again, although I did send him a file a few weeks ago with this issue as I noticed it as well. He wrote the code to this so he'd be the one to know how to fix it.
Quote:Grotto – You did a good job making Lu BU relevant in this one. I wrecked everyone else with Thwart and power pills but ran out of juice. The only way I took out Honda was with an epic duel.With 255 AC, heck yeah!
Quote:Surprise – That caught me with my pants down. 2nd time I wrecked it since I prepared. The Sima Bros and Xu Shu were easy to take with their low AP. I assume you might have done this intentionally for a whack-a-mole approach (Take out easy guys go after the other two. When easy guys get raised whack them down again and go after the original two again).I figured this would get most people who just march into Luo Yang half dead and drained, figuring it was all over :P
Quote:Possible Bug – Yang Hu shows up as a random encounter in this area.I'll check on that.
Quote:Awesome job with this Mod! I can give it another run in a week or two to check out your recent changes if you like. I’ll probably start your Wu Mod next so I can take notes and post observations for you. Sun Ce/Taishi Ci/Gan Ning should help my Lu Bu syndrome.Awesome and thanks for the highly detailed feedback which has helped me to make a number of changes to version 3.0 and make it a lot better. There are a few changes I still need to make to Flames of Wu which is still in BETA because there are number of things I'd still like to add to it/change with it. Rise of Ieyasu 2.0 is now the most outdated mod of mine but one that totally deviates from ROTK to the Sengoku Era. Let me know which one you'll tackle.
September 8, 2013 at 8:13 pm #39432sonic.penguinModeratorUpdated ROLB mod on front page.
Fixes:
Halberds are no longer available for purchase at Ru Nan or Jin (version 3.0 made them too powerful w/ agility based attacks)
Music modified for a few battles that are more climactic.
September 10, 2013 at 1:33 am #39433sonic.penguinModeratorMod updated on the front page with the Last Guy Going First = Freeze Bug Fixed!
September 15, 2013 at 1:49 pm #39441sonic.penguinModeratorAllowing a moment of escape from the spambots and their ilk, the Rise of Lu Bu Trailer has been launched to spread the word of version 3.0! You can check it out here or on the front page of this thread. Enjoy…. BWAHAHAHA!
September 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm #39442MiDKnighTModeratorCool, I promoted your vid on the facebook page.
September 15, 2013 at 8:05 pm #39443sonic.penguinModeratorAwesome. Thanks. Good to drum up some more DOAEr's around here. :finger:
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