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Let me see if I can use my mod powers to fix the text.
EDIT: changed the video link and that fixed the text
Yea, the video link broke the page for a bit lol.
Quote:i've debated streaming my play through to justin.tv, but…. dunno if there's a pointHaha, go for it, just say when you are going to do it then if someone is on and wants to see they can. I bet sonic.penguin would watch you play through his mod huohu
Welcome to Lord Yuan Shu Walkthrough Guides ·
Huo Hu's Adventure started Destiny of an Emperor hackingQuote:will there be any problems moving from the oct27th ver to the 29th ver within my current game (using in game saving functionality, not save states) ?Nope, everything should be fully functional as long as the DOAE mod name and savestate file dont change (which they don't). Its safe to copy over the old with the new.
Quote:have hit *one* bug so far…. and given the nature of it i wonder if it's a doe bug at that. didn't have a full party (just fighters + strat), lvl'd up, and it told me that huang zhong had xxx number of soldiers (same as cheng deng i think?)…. i've obviously not gotten him yet, let alone he's obviously not in the party.I have had this happen as well, but in the case of Lu Su. So far I have found it to be harmless
Quote:the use of resurrects in the DZ area have been nice, particularly with the one-hit lu bu kills heheh.I thought this gave an actual function to using RR's which I felt were never really used except in the case of insta-death hits. Although Lu Bu's AP was reduced from 250 -> 120ish.
Quote:overworld and basket room tile mishaps are easy enough to ignore.Dont know how that little bug got in there with the "basket room" since I didn't even edit those hehe. The overworld stuff is just too hard to make "perfect" atm with current modding tools, but glad its still enjoyable.
Quote:Now have to deal with Zhuge Liang and Dong Zhou. Ouch… I've heard they are way overpowered too.This has been fixed to an extent. DZ's hp has been reduced but a tactic like Evade/Guard is a must. ZGL battle am up in the air about changing it atm, even though it is hard, but then again, he's like the Lu Bu of intelligence so making it easy I have felt would reduce that "reward". The tiger wang battle was meant to prevent a player from going into Jing Zhou before finishing Yuan Shao area, or from going there too early before they were a high enough level.
Quote:Let me see if I can use my mod powers to fix the text.EDIT: changed the video link and that fixed the text
Thanks, much better :)
Quote:I bet sonic.penguin would watch you play through his modI appreciate all the feedback about the mod, good and especially bad, which is why its starting to turn out. Sorry about breaking the page ehehe
In jingzhou now.
The Wang battle to keep people out of JZ is about perfect although perhaps still a bit on the rough side (only have doubt atm)… assuming you really want to stop ppl from going into JZ first :). I always liked being able to branch in the game heh. Too bad the original didn't beef up the Yuan Shao area if ya chose JZ first, etc.
The Huang Zhong ambush caught me off guard, lost a couple generals in the fight hehehe.
In DZ's area, I ran across Cai Yong, but he wasn't in any gate/castle battles ? Oh, and when I restarted my game, it was time to chase down Yuan Shu…. but Liu Bei was saying we can't let Lu Bu run free. I understand what's going on due to prior experience, but it seems like a writing goof?
Speaking of writing, been enjoying the humor :).
Oh, and in the Oct 29th ver ya took away Hua Xoing's growing army (had just started to chase Yuan Shu and noted he wasn't growing anymore heh), kinda borked my party in doing so :D (easily recoverable tho with other generals).
The opening of the game was a nice improvement IMO. I actually had to buy food *gasp* hehe. Also learned Liu Bei shouldn't enter Wei hehehe. Some warning woulda been nice :).
Similarly, the house that bridges DZ/YS area with Gongsun Zan was a surprise…. but … that at least was warned about.
Saw the castle north that couldn't be reached quite yet, was very curious hehehe.
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Left off with needing to do the Zhao Fan castle fight. One hit kill Lu Bu + AnSha tactician is… a brutal update to the standard Lu Bu fights you've presented all along. I like the change up in strategy it'll involve. Dunno if I'll grind for Mistrust or if just try to take out the AnSha guy while Lu Bu is Doubt'd. I'm currently lvl 17, btw.
Overall, enjoying it.
Quote:In DZ's area, I ran across Cai Yong, but he wasn't in any gate/castle battles ? Oh, and when I restarted my game, it was time to chase down Yuan Shu…. but Liu Bei was saying we can't let Lu Bu run free. I understand what's going on due to prior experience, but it seems like a writing goof?I thought he was in the castle after Luo Yang, I'll have to check that one. If Liu Bei was saying that before fighting Yuan Shu, that was a typo q.q Unless he said it after you fought him in Nan Yang? I haven't gotten to test that yet.
Quote:Oh, and in the Oct 29th ver ya took away Hua Xoing's growing army (had just started to chase Yuan Shu and noted he wasn't growing anymore heh), kinda borked my party in doing so (easily recoverable tho with other generals).I dont think he ever had a growing army hehe, but Guan Ping should have one. Did you find Diao Chan?
Quote:Speaking of writing, been enjoying the humor :).Hehe, this probably takes longer than the rest of the changes, glad its working out to an extent.
Quote:The opening of the game was a nice improvement IMO. I actually had to buy food *gasp* hehe. Also learned Liu Bei shouldn't enter Wei hehehe. Some warning woulda been nice :).Ive scripted food to be auto-added to your party to eliminate the "same ol' start" of talking to Cui for food. He now has another addition but if you think of the possibilities once youre level 50 instead of being greedy…
Was trying to decide if a warning would be appropriate or a surprise, but I figured the surprise approach would remind players to revisit it later.
Quote:Dunno if I'll grind for Mistrust or if just try to take out the AnSha guy while Lu Bu is Doubt'd. I'm currently lvl 17, btw.That might be a good idea, someone in Yuan Shao territory should reinforce this as well.
Thanks for filling me in with detailed updates! As im finishing up with combing through the Yuan Shao mod, I'm trying to fix the bugs and errors simultaneously. FYI, Cao Hong will have a messed up portrait i think until I punch in the next update.
Yup, found Diao Chan. She was my tactician for a good while.
re: cao hong portrait, i've enjoyed some of the not quite shapened portraits so far… although most of them are well done :)
Re: 'cant let lu bu run free' — original plot and current is both to reign in yuan shu… but liu bei's text ignores the yuan shu factor and only mentions lu bu. which… you already have lu bu in your party or something ?
re: hua xiong – i'm pretty sure he was growing in army…. whatever. doesn't matter ?
re: start / food / etc — i actually had to grind a bit and also all of the exploring is what caused me needing to buy food :). Yes, it started with food, and yes I did reset immediately when it gave the free lvl up. Love me some 50+ lvls down the road heh.
And actually, the start took a couple of tries just to even make it to xu zhou just so i could save. some very bad random encounters along the way heh
re: zhao fan castle fight. actually, jian yong from the start of the game fit the bill nicely for mislead (although… there are similar yuan shao area tacticians that would suffice as well).
i'm approaching what was chengdu in the original, and have noted changing up tacticians a few times along the way in order to deal with the situation at hand. btw: pangtong in the shu area is highly irritating (like he's supposed to be hehe)
the last appearance of DZ was nicely done.
i have hit the tactician-chest bug so will need to cheat up some iron ore after taking chengdu (the swordsmith house fight is on the harsh side atm… sitting around 5k troops on lu bu). dunno if they're related, but i also found a second yan yan out and about, so i've got two yan yan's in my roster now.
the shortcut around iron mountain with ambush played out nicely as well. not too much, but enough to still require some planning.
still haven't decided how to tackle swordsmith house. if i pick up ce-main, that'll prolly be it… although if someone still offers guard, that might work as well. we'll see…
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perhaps the only semi-interesting complaint i have is lu bu's sky rocketed intelligence upon final join. i've yet to go through the rest of the game, but that seems a tad abusive. granted, it *is* the rise of lu bu! :D
Quote:Re: 'cant let lu bu run free' — original plot and current is both to reign in yuan shu… but liu bei's text ignores the yuan shu factor and only mentions lu bu. which… you already have lu bu in your party or something ?Yeah, gonna have to fix that.
Quote:re: cao hong portrait, i've enjoyed some of the not quite shapened portraits so far… although most of them are well donegood to hear as it took a lot of time to create semi-decent looking ones that didnt look crappy and semi-cool, but this one actually has a wrong slice of portrait in it. Gonna update that shortly though.
Quote:btw: pangtong in the shu area is highly irritating (like he's supposed to be hehe)By the time you reach Cheng Du however, it should be more doable with upgraded tactics, at least that was the plan.
Quote:but i also found a second yan yan out and about, so i've got two yan yan's in my roster now.Hmm, I wonder how that happened lol. I just checked the rom and I only have one… Did you happen to beat the shortcut BEFORE going to Luo? Just wondering although I believe he is more than one fight around there… might have to adjust that.
Quote:the shortcut around iron mountain with ambush played out nicely as well. not too much, but enough to still require some planning.This was just to keep things interesting as I always found the "swordsmith quest" kind of dull and repetative for DOAE veterans.
Quote:perhaps the only semi-interesting complaint i have is lu bu's sky rocketed intelligence upon final join. i've yet to go through the rest of the game, but that seems a tad abusive. granted, it *is* the rise of lu bu!Here was the issue… if I left him stupid, it would nerf his balance endgame and make him useless. Like Xu Chu or Dian Wei, just fodder for AnSha and Tactic users. The dialogue does indicate upon his recruitment that he was "learning strategy at the house of Chen Gong" which I felt mike give a semi-logical reason to beef up his INT that was believable. Think his INT should be lower? Maybe after more of the mod you will decide, thats fine, it is changeable though.
Quote:Yes, it started with food, and yes I did reset immediately when it gave the free lvl up. Love me some 50+ lvls down the road heh.Figured most people would do this hehe, I laughed to myself when putting this one in.
Thanks for the info, will try and fix some of those bugs and will repost shortly.
Perhaps give Lu Bu lower INT but make him un-anshable?
Thought about that one too but waiting on adjusting that til you guys get further. The higher int. doesnt exactly make him godly in this mod. If it was a reduction, maybe around 170-180?
*Updated link as well*
Whatever his IQ was, Lu Bu was amazingly gullible; you should give him 40 int but make him unanshaable.
I beat Zhuge Liang on the first try but I think I got really lucky. He zealed himself but didn't use the Inferno or Deluge which would have wiped me out.
Quote:beat Zhuge Liang on the first try but I think I got really lucky. He zealed himself but didn't use the Inferno or Deluge which would have wiped me out.That was the idea for that battle for winning it earlier than youre supposed to. Either luck or wait til later. Although if you watch the video I made on the previous page, its doable even if he does use inferno with a buff :)
Quote:Whatever his IQ was, Lu Bu was amazingly gullible; you should give him 40 int but make him unanshaable.40 is like a vegetable lol. But I am considering this option but essentially that would also put him out of the game once you start recruiting officers like Lu Xun with 245 int. or even Taishi Ci who has 150ish intelligence and only a few less str. points than Lu Bu, hence, the INT buff makes him usable all game long and not just another 'unbilletable' officer you dont use sort of like what happens to Huang Zhong after Shu/Wu in the original DOAE, lowest STR/SOLDIERS of the 5 tigers, and not high INT. So I guess this would be comparable to the 230STR 210INT Yuan Shang.
This is why the story explains his big INT gain as you play the mod which obviously is why this MOD is not historically accurate, but then again, neither was the original DOAE. I think Chen Gong would make an excellent tutor, I mean, why else would anyone travel all the way to Luo Sang Village? TO read the destiny of an emperor rise of lu bu novel?
On a personal note, Im not just licensed in graphic design, but Im also a licensed teacher. Education is possible, even for Lu Bu :huohu:
re: lu bu high INT
it's a tad odd given the typical story / history, but in a 'rise of lu bu' mod, i have no real qualms with it. He does have higher INT than Zhao Yun, which is amusing :). It's kind of handy to have him with high INT, particularly since I'm looking for a casual yet interesting game… and many DOE mods up the difficulty resulting in a lot of save file restarts or save state battles. I have yet to get into late game, so dunno how it'll turn out.
speaking of save state battles, so far I've not resorted to them. about the only battles i'll save state with are random encounters with high INT ppl I wanna run from (and when I'm really sleepy .. meaning i don't wanna deal with it that much more heh).
re: pang tong / chengdu
Yeah, by / after chengdu i had cemian so it wasn't so bad. even before hand it was possible, just irritating (as is supposed to be).
re: yan yan / beat shortcut before or after luo
i… honestly can't recall. trying to recall how the game flow went, i ran into the shortcut… not sure if i beat it or died. if i died, i didn't come back until after taking the camp just after ore mountain. i just can't recall :(
re: zhuge liang fight
I believe I was using Guard at the time and just whittled him down (yay for a high INT enemy without wanfu!).
re: progress through the game so far
i'm not sure if i took care of iron ore or chengdu first. i know i was debating iron ore afterwards… just not sure how it actually happened. i wanna say i did chengdu last. i recall dealing with shamoke more than i do the wizards… and i know i cemian'd the wizards.
i now gotta take back jingzhou. fights there are much harder than chengdu… which is a change from the game flow of the original heh. not sure which direction i'll go first, prolly take out the wu invaders first…. i'll have to look at my tacticians again and decide a proper route.
am around lvl35 with 8k troops on lu bu. don't think grinding is very feasible atm (60 fights to lvl up?)… we'll see.
ps – do enjoy the alternate rebel forces during scripted fights :3. oh, and not sure if doe2.0 had it or if you added it, but thanks for keeping the idea of being able to billet guan/zhang sons.
I think stretching the history (or the book) is fine to help with the game story line but giving Lu Bu that high intelligence is pretty much the opposite of history. Over 200 is "advisor" level INT which doesn't fit Lu Bu at all.
If you want to give him a boost I'd give him Ma Chao type INT and make him un-anshable. That's stretching the truth a bit but not completely distorting it :)
Regarding the Iron Ore, if this game was built off of DoaE 2.0 then it should have the Iron Ore fix built in. You may want to check it though to be sure.
using oct 31st ver now
just zeal roasted some wei invaders…. although cao cao was able to zeal yuan before the first cemian (at least it wasn't dun!). now to figure out how to handle wu invaders.
re: lu bu int
i'd be fine with a lower int / ansha resistant lu bu
re: iron ore
nope, had to game genie the iron ore. also had a chest re-close early on (the dong zhou mace in cave).
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